• Lantsu@sopuli.xyz
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    15 hours ago

    I used to work in customer service and there is only few things more nasty than boob-sweaty cash out of someone’s bra.

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    20 hours ago

    I used to be a cashier at a grocery store and one time a lady came through the line and went to pull her wallet out of her bra, couldn’t find it easily and started emptying her bra like a purse. Out come the keys, tissues, a GUN, then finally the wallet.

    She had a gun. In her bra.

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      17 hours ago

      In the holster? If it was out of the holster, that is brandishing, especially since it was at a register, and she should not be carrying. Even in a holster, that is so close to brandishing that it could easily get her a court case. Just touching it alone can be considered criminally menacing.

      I live in a place that is very gun friendly and I have carried both openly and concealed, but every single person who carries a gun responsibly knows that the second most important rule is to keep your hands off it unless it’s go time.

      Depending on the holster, carrying in her bra is potentially safe-ish, but her decision making in this instance makes me feel like she probably didn’t do much research.

      For those out there considering carrying:

      1. Never point your gun at something you aren’t ready to destroy, and treat your gun as if it is loaded at all times.
      2. Keep your hands off your weapon when you don’t intend to use it.
      3. Always carry it in an appropriate holster (hard shell kydex for inside clothing) and leave it holstered as much as possible when not carrying because the holster is the primary safety mechanism.
      4. Have a clear understanding of your target, what is behind your target, and the penetration power of your ammunition as well as your effective aiming range.
      5. Consider every single alternative and probably choose that before presenting your firearm.
      6. Only if there is absolutely no alternative and a life is in mortal danger, present your firearm quickly, assume a firm and practiced grip, aim for center mass, and call out a warning such as “stop or I’ll shoot”. Only fire if that warning is ignored and you or a loved one remain in mortal danger despite the warning. It is only acceptable to not give a warning if the assailant is actively attempting to murder someone already.
      7. Once the target is no longer a threat, do not continue to fire and reholster your firearm immediately. Then, call the cops, call your lawyer, toss first aid to the assailant if you have it, and wait patiently to be arrested (because you will likely be starting a legal journey that will change your life).

      If you have fantasies about wanting to use a gun in self defense, you probably shouldn’t carry one. Shooting anyone is a tragedy for all involved. You won’t be a hero, you will be a killer for the rest of your life. If you did that because you absolutely had to, then thoughts and prayers to you, but if you did it because you wanted to be a badass, you are no better than the criminal you were trying to stop.

      The only appropriate attitude for a gun carrier is “I sincerely hope I never have to use this thing in self defense.”

      “Hold this for a second while I dig around in my tits” is not the appropriate attitude.

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        7 hours ago

        No, it was a little handgun, not holstered. She didn’t seem to think anything of it, which was part of why it was so funny. Hopefully safety was set.

        I am not at all a gun person but plenty of ladies here have a purse gun. Or did back then anyway, and through the 2000s, I haven’t polled my coworkers lately. But it was quite startling.

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          Yeesh, that lady should not be carrying. There is so much wrong with what she did, that I feel like the only correct response would be to confiscate her gun off the counter and call the cops to report her. What she did is illegal everywhere in the US—there is no state that does not require a holster for concealed carry.

          A manual safety is one of the least reliable safety mechanisms on a gun. Many models don’t even have them so you don’t fall into a false sense of security. A holster that completely covers the trigger guard and has enough grip for the gun to remain in it when held upside down is the only acceptable safety for wear in public.

          What you’ve described is a lady who has a loaded and unsecured gun sliding around in her chest that is very likely pointing straight at her body or straight at the person in front of her. A single moment of it sliding against her skin or the fabric of her bra could easily disengage the safety and pull the trigger at the same time. A hug could set that thing off!

          The purse is only marginally better—the first thing an attacker tends to grab is your bag, so it won’t do you much good when you’re playing tug of war to get it back.

          This whole story gives me chills. If you choose to handle a dangerous object like a gun, it is absolutely essential to take the proper and established precautions that are recommended by every single gun store clerk. These rules are there for a reason—they are written in blood.

          In case anyone is interested, this is how I handle a gun:

          I have a portable safe in my bag, in my car, and a full size safe in my house. All portable safes can be tracked with GPS and are secured to the strongest and heaviest thing they are near to. My holster completely covers the trigger guard, retains the gun when held upside down, and has no clearance on the sides where anything narrow could slip down to the trigger. My gun has a manual safety that is always activated and checked every time I go to the bathroom and buckle my pants. Once my gun is on me, I do not touch it unless I am in a private space, and even then, it is only to check the holster retention and the safety switch. I have taken training courses to understand safe handling. I have memorized the signage that would prevent me from carrying a gun into a location. I do my best to never bring it into someone’s home without permission, but if it is necessary (no safer alternative), it is locked in the portable safe and remains in the holster. I never put it in a position where another person could grab it unless it is fully unloaded and the person is adequately prepared to handle a firearm with my supervision.

          The safest place for a gun is in a safe under your control, the second safest place is properly secured to your body under your control, and there is no third option.

          In my opinion, anything less than that is irresponsible and dangerous. If you aren’t willing to have that level of discipline, I firmly believe you should not carry.

      • musubibreakfast@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        I prefer to follow the Phil Spector gun rules. First, a gun is to man as a baton is to the conductor of an orchestra. By waving and pointing your gun, you can conduct and orchestrate the flow of any conversation.

        Second, when I doubt, whip it out, if anything your gun can function as an icebreaker, a gun to the face, gets everyone on the same page.

        And finally, shooting is fine, you won’t harm anyone unless you mean to. Bullets are so small, have you seen how big the average American is?

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          16 hours ago

          😂

          But for real though, that is some criminally awful advice. Don’t do those things, y’all. You will go to prison, and rightfully so.

          He did get one thing right though: presenting a gun in any context definitely changes the vibe of a room. Not in a good way, mind you, but definitely changed.

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        17 hours ago

        The only thing I reasonably see myself using a gun for, aside from plinking, would be a dog attack. I could see it helping in that situation. If a person is involved running or complying is basically always the answer.

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          100%. Basically the only reason to shoot is that the assailant is already shooting at you or a loved one, y’all are unable to retreat, and there is no option to comply with a theft.

          The recent shooting in Twin Falls, Idaho is a pretty good example of correct shooting for defense. The criminal had a powerful rifle and dozens of people pinned in a fast food joint with big front windows and no safe exit. A legally armed witness found himself in a good position to fire on the assailant, and did so with an appropriate backstop behind the assailant. Though it is unclear if he hit the assailant, his fire forced the criminal to turn his attention towards him and it created the opportunity for many people to escape. The criminal ended up shooting himself after they exchanged a few rounds back and forth, and then the defending witness put his firearm away and cooperated with law enforcement.

          His actions saved a lot of people, but it wouldn’t have been appropriate for him to shoot unless he had fully considered the conditions and alternatives, which he did. The criminal only sought to murder people, and there was no way to safely approach him or assist the victims to escape. His unique position relative to the assailant and the victims put him in exactly the right spot to take the shot. He had the appropriate skill to believe he could hit his target. He ceased firing the moment the threat was neutralized.

          If you happen to find yourself in a situation exactly like that, then maybe you should take the shot, but if there is any doubt in your mind or the safety conditions are not met, then you absolutely should not shoot.

    • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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      20 hours ago

      There’s actually a holster made to attach to your bra.

      It’s called the… Wait for it…

      Flashbang.

      I wish I had thought of that.

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    23 hours ago

    I’m always impressed by womens ability to stash shit in their bra. How does it not affect the size or clothes lines in any way whatsoever?

    I once saw one pull a big can of deodorant out of there. Not a little travel size, about a foot long. Also a medium purse and a smartphone. That was about 10 years ago and my melon is still twisted.

    Some video game inventory logic man.