• Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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    I had a Car Crisis back in '04 and the only car on the market I could afford was a beat up 86 Suburban that couldn’t have gotten more than 12mpg.

    I think gas was hovering around $2.50 a gallon at that time and shit was dire, I can only imagine how rough it is for the poor souls nowadays that Need A Truck.

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    They’ll append the sign with a tiny 9/10ths of $10 sticker and roll the display back over to $ 1.10. (Forgive me if my math is off, I’m a dreamer, not a do-er)

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    Now you know why gasoline is sold by the liter in Europe: you can multiply the price another 3.5x.

    $10 / gal is quite typical in Europe.

    Welcome to the reality of fossil fuel scarcity and the consequences of stupid wars. It’s high time Americans felt what happens when they do stupid shit in a world of dwindling cheap energy resources.

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      2 hours ago

      It isnt, most european countries usually have much lower prices. Even with the current situation the median is arround 8usd/gallon.

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        1 hour ago

        You must live where it’s cheaper. I gassed up this morning in Scandinavia and it was over 2.4€ per liter for diesel.

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            57 minutes ago

            Well, it’s not really an option for me: I don’t drive nearly enough in a year for the expense to make financial sense, and I don’t want a modern car with all the surveillance equipment built in. I fill up maybe 3 or 4 times a year, but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel the pain when I do 🙂

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    Don’t worry, they’ll fix the machines soon, and they will be able to go above 10. All is well.

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    7 hours ago

    I worked in a gas station in Canada back in 2001 when the price of a liter first broke $1.00. We had to physically stick a 1 up on the electronic sign.

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      If we’re gonna use the European sticker price, the US will also need to include the cost of decades of war in the Middle East.

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      While you are right, prices in the countries listed were never cheap to begin with because fuels in Europe are highly taxed.

      Also, for the same reason, most European cars are leagues above US ones in terms of fuel efficiency. Fuel was always expensive here, so we started making and purchasing cars that were smaller and more efficient in order to save.

      In the US, efficiency was never the goal because with cheap fuel prices, nobody cared if their truck was huge and drank several times what an European car drank to make the same distance.

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      Wouldnt want an unstable woman in charge of things now, would we?

      /s for those with glacial mental faculties

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      Someone online posted that the reason things are all expensive, is the Rs are trying to fix all the problems caused by Democrats.

      I can’t understand the mental gymnastics needed to come up with, and believe that statement.

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        6 hours ago

        Tell them to name one problem, and show their work that Dems caused it, Repubs are trying to fix it, and how that caused diesel prices to spike.

        Spoiler, they can’t.

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      13 hours ago

      The difference in gas prices between California and red states is still bigger than the difference between before and after Trump attacked Iran.

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      12 hours ago

      California has higher than average gas prices for a myriad of complications reasons, not the least of which being a largely independent Petro industry.

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    And given how efficient are US trucks in gas consumption, a gallon is… how much in terms of mileage? 5 miles or so? How much does it cost you with those prices just to go to the gas station to fill up?

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      If I remember right its about 15 MPG for most diesel us trucks. So 15 miles, in real numbers about 24 kms. That is not enough to get me to the nearest city from my house. Like 30 kms to even a tim hortens. That is $10 (usd so more here) just to go to town…

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        I was exaggerating with the 5 MPG, I didn’t expect it to be so damn low as 15 MPG. That’s… Converting to lt/km that would be around 15lt per 100 kms! Damn… Not sure about average consumptions in Europe, since I drive an electric and never had an ICE but I think the average goes to around 5-6lt per 100km so that’s 3 times as much. Wow…

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          I have been told that 14 mpgs is really good for a truck (my 1986 c20 does a bit better and its a v8 and carboratred). They are not little guys, and in this part of Canada you have more trucks on the road then just about any other type, most with one person in them and nothing in the back. At least I try to only use my truck when needing to haul yard waste or something to much for my little car, but next door has 3 trucks for 2 people.

          7 to 8 Lt per 100km is about normal here (depending on what you drive) in non trucks but for years people here relate success with a big truck.

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            I guess that’s what happens when you have cheap-ass gas prices. Efficiency is just not needed. Well, if anything, this will help people understand how convenient is an EV. I drive 60km a day for my commute and it costs me 2.4€ of electricity, and that’s considering Italy’s electricity prices are not among the lowest in Europe. With such a beast here, I’d go for around 15-16€ a day. Yeah, not happening ever, lol

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              Oh it was needed here, but activly pushed into clown world numbers of inefficientcies. We have had cars that are very good on gas, now we have cars that say they are good on gas but use 3x what a car from the past would do. Its all marketing over function now and our auto industry is effectively dead due to it, people are (shocker) not buying enough $100,000 trucks that cost $10 in gas to go to the store.

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            Well if you are using it for work at least its just a business expense so its easier to justify the cost of something large. For recreational use it would be stupid.

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      So, I currently have a Chevy Silverado 6.0 liter gas truck. 4 full doors, long bed. I tow a 37ft bumper pull rv with it full time, around 9000lbs loaded. Truck bed is full, maybe another 1200lbs.

      I get 7mpg average, and that’s across the country a few times. Unloaded maybe 10mpg. I run up to about 80mph when towing where possible.

      My Dodge Ram before it with a 12v Cummins diesel got 14mpg loaded similarly, and about 18-20mpg unloaded (I kept about 500lbs of wood in the bed all the time so it was never really empty).

      It’s about $130 to fill up my Chevy right now with current gas prices. We had to do it about six times to move up north this summer for work.

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        I run up to about 80mph when towing where possible.

        Maybe that’s part of the problem? Cars lose a lot of efficiency when you start going over ~60 mph.

        I kept about 500lbs of wood in the bed all the time so it was never really empty)

        I’m starting to think you don’t care all that much about efficiency

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        I want to get an EV but, until we make more money or one of our cars breaks down, my wife and I are stuck with ICE.

        Shouldn’t be too much longer though. My wife drives a Jeep, the emo of cars. It was born to die.

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        I mean, I live in a country with expensive electricity and I can’t charge at home, so prices are even higher because I use the public charge points. Still, I drive around 400km with less than 20€ that’s simply unachievable with an ICE car, let alone and US ICE car.

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    It’s inevitable. Obviously this is caused by a political disruption, but oil is a finite resource. People are eventually going to be economically forced to switch to electric, and putting it off for ethnocentrism reasons is just poor policy.

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      Ha! You fool! You think there’s infinite electrons to put in your dastardly e-buckets???!!!?

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      One COVID like event could collapse demand in a matter of weeks, like it did last time and gas dropped to 1.85 a gallon where I live. No one was going anywhere. Air quality improved, and really nothing changed. Same self hating dipshit pedo/closet gay/rape ape president.

      Almost like he’s setup his whole 1st term to benefit the middle east oil subsidies his family has invested in. Like how the Liv golf foundation was just a way to funnel money to right wing Assholes

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        That’s not that fair to say.

        He’s also set up his second term to enrich himself and his inner circle at our expense, too!