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Yeah but then one of them is “curry powder” and now you have twice as many ingredients!
The Indian subcontinent has always been blessed with a plethora of spices. The Ottoman capture of Constantinople and fall of the Byzantine empire led to the advent of the the so called Age of Discovery as the Portugese and various “East India trading companies” sought to bypass their tariff implemented on goods shipped through the Middle East and North Africa.
These very first multinational corporations were so successful that spices became ubiquitous in Europe and eventually lost the prestige of being a foreign luxury for the elite. That change ended up altering the emphasis of certain flavors in European cuisine, with a preference away from using many spices:
Back in the Middle Ages, spices were really expensive, which meant that only the upper class could afford them. But things started to change as Europeans began colonizing parts of India and the Americas.
“Spices begin to pour into Europe,” explains Krishnendu Ray, an associate professor of food studies at New York University. “What used to be expensive and exclusive became common.”
Serving richly spiced stews was no longer a status symbol for Europe’s wealthiest families — even the middle classes could afford to spice up their grub. “So the elite recoiled from the increasing popularity of spices,” Ray says. “They moved on to an aesthetic theory of taste. Rather than infusing food with spice, they said things should taste like themselves. Meat should taste like meat, and anything you add only serves to intensify the existing flavors.”
“In Europe, meat was considered the manliest, strongest component of a meal,” Laudan notes, and chefs wanted it to shine. So they began cooking meat in meat-based gravies, to intensify its flavor.
Damn, I kinda want to invade and colonise India now, repress freedom movements and cause famines 🤔
In order to enjoy my chicken, a noble cause
Trevor Noah does a hilarious bit about MLK Jr. and his friends going to a white diner after ending segregation which ends with them questioning their choices after tasting the (relatively bland) chicken 😂.
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The funny thing about South Asia is that they had like 200 unique spices already but they didn’t get capsaicin spices (peppers) until the portuguese brought it from the Americas via trade, and then South Asians immediately slurped it up and bred a ton of varieties as if the 200 wasn’t enough.
And they went max power too which is how we got Thai bird eye chillis lol.
Is Thai birds eye chili supposed to be spicy?
It was high for the era, not anymore compared to current meme breeds though lol. Relatively though it still is quite strong. I’d probably say it’s the 2nd or 3rd hottest pepper used fresh and not dried for powder.
tbf Thais like to use bucketfulls of it which adds up compared to their western neighbors who use the slightly less potent early harvested green and in lower quantitities.
Also for some reason, a lot of sources erroneously put it super under Habenro peppers which I can tell you first hand is not true. They can easily hit 400k on the scoville scale, but there’s too many similar varieties which are much less potent but still get labelled as Thai chillies because of the shape.
I remember going to a Thai place recently opened, and told the server “literally, anything you can do to make it spicy, I want that. You have a 5 scale, I want a 10”. They told the cooks, cooks giggled, came out like 60/40 split on food and pepper, it was delicious.
Lol their papaya salad is the same, just a mountain of peppers mixed in with raw papaya. Tasted awesome haha.
I don’t think any bird is supposed to be spicy naturally. Maybe check your mods.
Ah, danging. I had a load order issue.
I cannot eat spicy food because it makes my butt burn, but I don’t not believe this is true. I also know that the Asians have a smaller whole set of a lot, and it shows! That’s why I’m trying to find one to date right now, obviously.
I love how things like this develop a mystique. The KFC eleven herbs and spices, supposedly on a two-part list kept in separate vaults. The handwritten recipe for Coca-Cola, transported under heavy guard to a new vault in 2011. Donald Trump’s hair elixir formula, kept secret by Epstein until his prison cell suicide during a coincidental random camera malfunction. The list goes on…
Isn’t the KFC recipe a cheapened and vastly inferior version of the original one?
I dunno but I would assume so because it’s America, where if there’s a cheapened and vastly inferior version of something they’ll use it and rebrand the original as Plantinum Plus.
There’s a cooking show on Netflix where the goal is to make complex snacks with limited ingredients (iirc, I’ve watched a bunch) and one Indian woman kept getting chastised because she’d have like 30 ingredients with 20+ being spices.
So this show is completely replaceable by my AI. Look at these crackers I made with the help of AI. I forgot to cut them up, but they were made with buckwheat, onion powder, margarine, tarter sauce, and lots of buckwheat, a d they were awful, but this proves that even the show doesnt have what it shows it does ib the pictures, obviously, and that’s better then any AI could be
i am not even quite sure what the point of this comment is
Just block them it’s a racist troll
Neither are they, they’ve outsourced thinking for themselves.
No, I right my own stunts
There’s a big point, actually, but you’re observing not investigating, so I can’t tell you
Indian recipe be like: cumin powder, coriander powder, garlic powder, and curry powder(which is a mixed of 15 different spices)
You forgot mustard seeds, chili pepper, and garam masala (which is a blend of multiple different spices).
Oh and there’s no definite recipe for garam masala. It changes from region to region and possibly from one family to other.
Garam Masala is “home spice” and round these parts we call ours “old bay”
The old bay is where I storee the bodies. They won’t know where that is do I am more than happy to retell the ramigrades of my life
Do Indian or Pakistani folks actually have something called “curry powder” in their kitchens?
My understanding is no, they have a leaf called kari (pronounced similar to curry). If you say curry to an Indian born person, they typically think of the leaf, not a spice mix. Common spice mixes are garam masala, chaat masala, tikka, tandoori seasoning, etc. Source: married to an Indian and sometimes pay attention. India is a big place with thousands of cultures so YMMV.
And you can’t make curry powder from the leaf. Curry tree leaf is fried fresh in oil and removed, to add an aromatic flavor. Regional to South Indian dishes
That’s nothing, I use allspice which I’m pretty sure means infinity spices
Nothing, I use every bagel seasoning. it has everything. Tell your wife she tastes good.
I made a bagel. And I put everything on it.
Also means your own mother’s flavor is in there…
You had to make it wierd, at least you taste good
I am aware, but appreciate the compliment none the less
if you use serve something with allspice and then serve something with no spice you can be sure to have covered your bases
I mostly have acid thats why I see the little men in the violated space of the master that speaks to me threw the rainbow, and I took it to him, and he said no, so I am left without remorse
Just made indian style (not british style) tikka masala. Let’s count em:
Just for the oil (throw away after oil’s hot):
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cinnamon stick
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cardamom pods
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bay leaf
Marinade for chicken + the tikka “gravy”
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ginger
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garlic
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chili powder
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fenugreek
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coriander seed powder
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cumin powder
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turmeric
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Edit: a serrano chili
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garam masala
11 spices + a serrano pepper. But garam masala has like 10 spices in it
Probably want some fresh chilies as well so at twelve not including the garam masala.
Good point! Did add one.
True, but it’s still “only” 15 spices in total because half of those are usually part of garam masala. Mine for example has: coriander, cumin, cinnamon, ginger, pepper, fennel, cloves, anise, nutmeg cardamom.
True. The colonel is not quite at indian levels of flavor town, but still pretty good tbh
They hate us 'coz they anise.
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More isn’t always better. If you need 20 spices to enjoy food then you might have a problem.
Let me guess: British?
No, just capable of enjoying food with and without a ton of seasonings.
Builds an empire that sells spices to the world.
Has no idea what the world does with them.
lol my masala dabba has 12 sections and it isn’t big enough
They are all salt.
A pinch of salt, then a little sea salt, next up some table salt, then topping that off with a bit of rock salt
One of them is flour, which isn’t even a spice
Especially 4 of them are just differen peppers.
Adding more:
This is how I masturbate 3/10 times out of 20
Dud you know kernal Sanders never served in the army? Or even the space force. He was a man that sold chicken, and earned an honorary title. That makes that one movie with the general joke fall flat. Y’know, the one where the people are fighting for there right to party. It’s been like ten years, and I’ve done a million drugs, forgiving me.
