Hehe had the same thing pop into my head

Yeah but what ppl did and what can be proven in court are not the same. If the chat logs were the proof then without them, who would have won the case?

If the most powerful people in the world don’t have to care about the suffering they cause to hundreds of millions then I’m not going to be shamed into caring about insect’s supposed subjective experience of pain.

Why does to matter that it was named after two men? Why is that a bad thing? Are we seriously at the point that any maleness needs to be removed from association to woman related things, regardless of the relevance?

Do root canals or any other dentistry prevent this from working?

If they didn’t have the chat logs, would the CEO have won?

Here’s hoping for hobbyist industries to offer alternative electrics. We don’t need a bunch of complex systems to tell electric motors to go or stop.

Perhaps, but nobody in this thread argued it built muscle, only helps retain it if you’re sedentary.

Pretty important reason to not switch to electric if you ask me.

Likely to render the vehicle inoperable until fixed. Electric vehicles seem particularly vulnerable to service denial for any reason a company or government might decide.

…Shadowheart…?

It makes sense. Sedentary lives encourage muscle loss so protein excess encourages retention. Labourers don’t grow a ton of muscle working once they peak and need more calories from fat and carbs.

Fight fire with fire.

He’d probably give suicide a lot more consideration.

Can I get an electric vehicle without giving up my privacy or autonomy?

It ain’t weird if you’ve been paying any attention to how nation states compete, over the years.

Yep. Their moral arrogance makes them socially aggressive, especially in the face of uncomfortable, practical realities. They refuse to acknowledge that they are the modern day version of the very morality policing they vilify from previous generations. They don’t see it because they don’t hold the same values or beleifs that the past generations did, and it is the beliefs and values they disagreed with, not the system.

I look at them and see the a similarly oppressive, prejudice, abusive social control system. They see that the beleifs and values are different. It was never that the whole system was wrong, it was that the system didn’t support their beleifs and values. Now that it does, and they control it, they’re content to engage in similar oppression and prejudice of the groups they dislike.

It has always been about control, in service to self interest. It was not about building a better, more just and fair society. It’s part of why the left and right are so far apart today and how Trump is in the white house, again, abusing the power of the executive almost exclusively for personal gain.

Yah, urban liberals can be exceptionally closed minded, in their own unique way.

To further that point, it’s guaranteed that what was normal, isn’t, anymore. Some things are, much isn’t. For example, few men, relatively, know how to hunt anymore or would be willing or able to kill an animal. Becoming able to do that has wide ranging impacts on who they are. This used to be normal. If we accept that the environment shapes us then when it changes, so do we, and with that, what is considered normal, shifts.

Respect the self control.