The dickhead replying is so fucking dumb. If the console was physically broken in any way, then the discussion could be about planned obsolescence or regular wear and tear or how it was stored. But the console DID survive. It did “resume back to normal”, but it is artificially rendered worthless by the company.
We could talk about how long a console should physically last, with issues like the red ring of death being an example of them not lasting long enough, but the idea that Sony says you didn’t play frequently enough so you no longer own the things you paid for is absurd.
the bootlickery
it’s weird how the same console would have still worked fine if it were modded and had pirated games on it
It is the only way it would have worked fine. Sony cant step out of this minefield of bad press lol
I haven’t used my PS2 in about 20 years, and know for a fact that I could hook it up and play Jak and Daxter today with a single hdmi adapter.
This has to be a troll, right? 10 years is nothing. Heck, my 12-year-old laptop still runs most games being published on Steam to this day.
Who wouldn’t? It’s such a weird thing to assume it shouldn’t just work (assuming no hardware failure at least).
If I turn on a PC from 10 years ago it’ll boot up and run the applications installed on it.
Gen Z grew up in this broken world. They don’t know any better. They don’t understand what it means to own something.
That’s the plan, actually.
Many Gen Z grew up with Wii’s and Xbox’s which used physical media. I was never allowed to own an Xbox, but I did have a Wii. I think a lot of us have memories of putting in game CDs. The cutoff for that might be Gen Alpha.
Could be.
Specific age boundaries aside, the younger people are, the less experience they have of owning physical things, and the stranger the world as it used to be sounds to them. They live in a curated world of continually obsoleted technology they don’t own fed a diet of propaganda pushing technology and its proponents as saviors and not oppressors.
Yeah, there’s definitely a range. I’m gen z and we never really had game consoles, so I grew up mostly gaming on a Mac (do not recommend, although I think the translation layer situation has improved since then). I also have memories of putting in tapes, cartridges, and floppy disks to my parents’ old Atari and Commodore computers (both of which actually worked great after having not been used for like >30 years)
Gen Z is a wide spectrum.
I started on the PS1 and I am Gen Z
Because we’ve been conditioned to think that putting in a disc means a quick 5GB update to install…come back in 20 min
It’s been incremental but the landscape of gaming is now a casino with games, not games with betting.
If it have a blue-checkmark - just ignore it’s opinion.
It’s amazing anything legible comes out when he’s so busy presenting himself for corporate dong
Yes.
I bought my NES with my own money in 1988ish after saving up for months. If I go downstairs and power it on right now, I’m certain Tetris will fire right up.
I am less certain. Cartridges dont exactly age well. I had enough trouble with them in the 90s.
I dont mean to defend not owning our games, just saying cartridges were not perfect either.
Those carts are made to last. The bits on those ROMs will outlast DVDs burned decades later.
I’ve had the batteries die in carts with save functionality but I’ve never had a cartridge itself stop working. Maybe I’ve been lucky.
If 40 year old consoles can resume back to normal, so should 10 year old consoles.
However, it should be noted that the PS3 is now 20 years old.
the PS3 is now 20 years old
OutRAGEOUS misinformation…
It may have been 10 years old back in the olden days. Perhaps we need a historian or archeologist to weigh in.
The only thing they feel is the weight of aeons past on their backs
And there have only been two new consoles in the past twenty years*
Might’ve used it until 2016, that was just three years after release of the PS4.
It could have been booted up for the first time in 10 years at any point in the previous 10 years.
Uhh… Yes I do expect it to resume back to normal. Why the fuck wouldn’t it?
Sure, if I connect it to the internet I expect all sorts to updates to be missing. But offline? 1 day or 100 years shouldn’t make any difference. OK the CMOS battery might be flat.
OK the CMOS battery might be flat.
Arent they mostly flat to begin with? Sorry… I couldn’t help it.
YOUR MOM IS MOSTLY FLAT TO BEGIN WITH.
Not once I’m done with her.
This is the content I come to Lemmy for.
@Eh_I@lemmy.world, selflessly patching and inflating leaking mothers everywhere. Do you offer maternal rotation and balancing as well?
Thank you, she’s been trying to lose weight recently
Maybe she should stop eating batteries.
They are too energy-dense.
The case in the tweet wasn’t a hardware problem. Apparently the person’s PSN account had gotten deleted during their 10+ years of not using it, and downloaded games attached to the account didn’t work any more.
That’s still a pretty big fucking problem.
Yeah, but playing a physical copy of a game would be a fairer comparison to older systems.
Imagine if some Sony executive broke into your house and stole the games off your shelf because you hadn’t played them for a long time. Thats what happened here.
It never happens to a pirated game I heard
if its not theft for them to steal your games away from you, then its not piracy to download their games.
And
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the account shouldn’t have been deleted
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the account being deleted shouldn’t stop the downloaded games from working.
Both are Sony’s fault
especially considering your account takes up…what…a few dozen megabytes at most? its nothing but a database with what games you bought digitally.
its 100% purely an attempt to get customers to double dip on buying shit by exploiting changes in life that take people away from their recreation.
have a elderly relative take a bad turn and suddenly need 24/7 care? According to Sony, thats a great, monetizable event.
suffer a terrible injury that takes you years to recover? Sony’s Salivating over the potential of taking everything away from you, so you can buy it again to relive the “good days”
have to join the military and spend years from home? Your trauma is dolladolladollar signs for Sony’s executive department.
Even for accounts that haven’t gone inactive, I’m sure they’ve considered disabling games for older generation games. “Continuing to play PS4 games rather than buying a PS5 is theft!!!”
Yep… the capitalistic Ouroboros is coming around to the back of its own head, so long term stability and profits no longer matter, all that matters is maximizing short term profits…at any cost.
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“You expect the things you paid for and bought to still be there later?”
Yes, you corporate nut sucking fuck nugget, I do.
Your way with words is beautiful
I try 🩷
| You expect a 10yr old console to resume back to normal?
Yes? I recently considered trading in my old Xbox 360, but when I booted it up I discovered I still had around a hundred games still stored locally.
After the wave of nostalgia subsided, I realized how lucky I was. Keeping that bad boy forever.
Weeelllllllll… until it red rings at least.
Luckily, it’s one of the cases which can be fixed with a little oven time
thats a temporary bandaid that can shorten the life of other things on the board.
its been years, but IIRC the only actual fix for the issue, besides getting an xbox 360 slim, was to have someone with the tools and know how remove and reball the CPU and GPU with good quality leaded solder.
Instantly jailbreak that shit
I’ve been using my Hotmail account since 1998. I can log in right now and go back and read all the stupid emails my friends and I were sending each other in high school 28 years ago. And I’ve never paid a cent for that Hotmail account. And my cartridge games still have my saves.
So yeah, I do expect that.
And my cartridge games still have my saves.
they might not much longer, batteries and finite life and all that.
but at least you can slap new batteries in them and the game will still fucking work, and not permanently taken away from you because you took to long to go back and replay it.
Not all cartridges have batteries in them.
Most the ones with internal storage for save files do.
also, cartridges are repairable.
Battery dies?
Easily replaced.
save ROM fails? Easily replaced.
board eaten by corrosion? 98% chance someones reverse engineered it and posted the pcb design files online for you to get made via one of the PCB companies.
Hell, even if the chip holding the game itself dies, you can replace it and flash the new game from a rom file and be back to playing on your console again, at relatively minimum cost.
But modern disk gets scratched? Hope it still works… If it doesnt, well, you’re only hope is modding the console to boot a burnable disk or buy a new copy.
You shouldn’t. Microsoft locked me out of my 2001 hotmail account a few years ago.
