• Bluedragon012@lemmy.world
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    The only thing stopping us from forming a new federal government is believing that the current one will follow the rules. They will not. So we should not. We need to make a new declaration of independence from the current federal. They have destroyed the original and have out down far too much for us to repair it. We must start anew.

    If this election is proven to be a farse (which it’s leaning to) , us Americans need to become New America and eliminate these evil people once and for all.

    Remember we are agreeing to follow the rules. We do not have to if we feel the current leadership is not within our best intrest.

    Keep your basic morals in place, no need for chaos to rein. Be kind, be loving, and lead with liberty and justice for all, by any means necessary.

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    Who still believes the U.S. is a democracy? Seriously, you’d have to be a deluded nationalist not to see that this system has as little to do with democracy as elections in Russia do.

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      Who thinks they’re helping anything by positing democracy as a “yes” or “no” situation? Congratulations, you have no understanding of the fragile balance it has always been.

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      They got their base last year to deride everyone who mentioned US democracy with “We’Re a rEpUbLiC!” I imagined it was for making the lack of any democracy the new normal.

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      You’d have to participate in the democracy in a meaningful way. It’s not just waiting every 4 years to vote or attending an 8 hr protest/fundraiser

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      Trump: “I’m going to rig the next election”

      Liberals: “Damn, looks like Trump’s going to rig the next election”

      US media: “Liberals have fallen for a long debunked conspiracy theory about election integrity. Here’s how AI can help.”

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    America is way overdue for a second civil war - something nobody outside the US would give a flying fuck about if America wasn’t dragging the entire world down the drain with it.

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      There won’t be one.

      In easy question to answer for yourself. Would you defend America?

      Two to three entire blue generations of adults and two teen ones and they all have one thing in common.

      They have no feeling of good will towards themselves from their country. They don’t want a gun, they want a plane ticket.

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        Fuck you gimme a gun. I don’t trust the planes anymore anyway with the FAA all fired and ai in the control towers.

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      Yup. If you can be tricked into believing bullshit without any evidence and mountains of evidence against it then you will believe anything the most horrible people tell you. Just look at all those Christians and Trump.

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        Not a coincidence that the Party of God in the US is the one devolving the country into barbarism. Same thing happened when a Party of God took control in Iran.

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    When one party plays by the rules and the other party doesn’t, the moral victory only works when that same cheating party’s entire existence isn’t based on vice signaling. Since it is, maybe it’s time to start showing them where their vice gets them in the real world.

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    Well, IF firehose-of-lies has the inalienable-right-to-displace-accurate-truth, THEN … it’s inescapable an endstate.

    Too bad.

    ELSEIF true-expression has more rights than false-expression, THEN firehose-of-lies doesn’t have any inalienable-right-to-displace-accurate-truth, & then “free speech” has to be constitutionally-limited to free TRUE speech.

    FAFO, humankind:

    universe’s going to be pruning-down this world throughout the next 1/2-century,

    & whether we exist on the other side of that pruning-down, rests directly on our objectivity, correct-reasoning, pragmatism, honesty, uprightness, forbearance, accuracy, etc.

    Ignorance’s will … isn’t viable, in the Perfect Storm we’re about to be caught-in.

    & that is beautiful: universe’s elegance is itself.

    It weeds-out intentional-ignorances, at any scale: individual-scale, all the way up … even planet-scale.

    It makes itself clean of intentional-retardedness, no matter how ideological it is.

    _ /\ _

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      Look at what Hungary did. That’s why. They voted their way out of authoritarianism, so can we.

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        A little different situation also tbd can you even tell me why the Hungary thing supposedly worked again TBD or just that they voted the guy out

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          I mean the future isn’t knowable but they got rid of Viktor Orbán in favor of a pro-EU guy who ran on anti-authorianism, healthcare, and public transport. Sounds like a much better option to me. And they did it by quite literally making it too big to rig.

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            Promising then, but we can’t be for sure until time is in its grave. It would be nice if something similar happened in the States. But I highly doubt it. If anything we are firmly moving in the opposite direction straight into hell. Which brings me back to my original statement, why deal with any of this? Get the people together, kick all the corpo dick suckers out, and if we have to have a government (not sorry, anarchist) let’s at least force one that works for the people. I know I’m not the only one who feels like they just can’t stand this any longer and I am beginning to feel like the activism I do is meaningless. I won’t stop, but I need change. And good change, fast.

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              If anything we are firmly moving in the opposite direction

              Election results in the US over the past 18 months do not support this.

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                At this rate this all depends on the redistricting maps. I’m not holding my breath with the admin is saying openly they will rig it and send their thugs to the polls

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                  Redistricting can only help them so much. It will net them 8-10 seats if all states go through with it. The current margin is 5 I believe and the average flip for a midterm election is 27.

                  If you’re worried about elections, sign up to be a poll worker. The more eyes we have on them the better, and it’s a way for you to become directly involved in making them safe and secure.

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                Those are about two different countries bud. Feel free to actually read before dogpiling.

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                  That has nothing to do with the invalidity of your hypocritical logic. Feel free to think before shitting.

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      What does not participating accomplish, exactly? Even if I’m unlikely to succeed, between a 0.0001% chance and a 0% chance, I’m going for the 0.0001% every time.

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        We stop wasting time picking the least evil and just do this to all evil in the country? Not voting doesnt mean we aren’t grabbing pitch forks and torches. Because its about time to do just that. The emperors can’t even pretend they have clothes on anymore. This is worse than Rome in the final days.

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          We stop wasting time picking the least evil and just do this to all evil in the country? Not voting doesnt mean we aren’t grabbing pitch forks and torches. Because its about time to do just that.

          By your own admission you can’t even be bothered to vote, but you’ll absolutely for sure 100% immediately jump off the couch to grab a pitchfork and a torch to do whatever your non-voting wouldn’t do for you, all in unspecified and non-quantifiable ways against vague, undefined targets that clearly, even vehemently require the physical application of pitchforks and torches for positive, yet unspecified change, because “it’s about time” for that.

          Lol, okay.

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            Where did I admit that? You’re making shit up. I voted. And got punched in the dick by the democrats because they went all “WE ARE THE STRONGEST MILITARY, LOOK AT THE CHENEYS” come the fuck on dude it should have been in the fucken bag but they’re so idiotic they couldn’t understand people wanted change, any change, and they wanted it enough to harm everyone to get terrible change. Thats not my fault. Thats a failure of leadership.

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        What does not participating accomplish, exactly?

        If the election is being rigged at the state and judicial levels, participating and not participating have the same effect.

        Screaming at people to go participate, then blaming naysayers for the election loss, just plays into the Republican claims that they have a legitimate majority and elections are functioning as popular referendum.

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          In this context a “rigged election” just means trying to prevent anti-GOP voters from voting.

          If you don’t try to vote you are willfully giving the GOP what they want without them having to rig the elections.

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      Either participate by voting or by burning shit down. But just not voting or doing anything at all is truly the most cowardly of options.

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        I didnt consider burning shit down to be part of participating in the system. Since the system was supposed to be the alternative option to burning shit down.

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        you can’t win, don’t even try

        Too many Americans assume popular resistance can only happen on a single day, once every two years, in November.

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        Yeah I meant to imply a different method of letting the powers that be know what the people want.

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      Because I’m a filthy coward who’s more okay with the potential extermination of the weak and cannot imagine the desolation this regime will truly being to my life than I am of any disruption to the status quo and also I know my nice life kind of relies on the exploitation of others so I would really rather the world not improve too too much