All the piracy subs I can find are dead, quiet, or too niche. I’d love to be part of an effort to bring reliable and maintained information about how to safely pirate to lemmy. It’s actually one of the most frustrating things about switching from reddit. Are we puritanical here or something? If we had active piracy scenes I pretty much wouldn’t have to be on reddit at all anymore.
Personally I’m 📱 only so pirating is whatever streaming site works the best. Agreed that Lemmy could use more though, even if I can’t use it. Maybe Lenny is full of mobile phone chuds like me?
Lemmy.world tries really hard to follow the law. That means cracking down on illegal content. So yes, we are puritanical here.
At the very bottom is a menu with an entry called “Instances”. Click that to see lists of linked and blocked instances.
At the very bottom is a menu with an entry called “Instances”. Click that to see lists of linked and blocked instances.
Just FYI that does not tell .world members about which communities lemmy.world admins block. Whether on purpose or accidental lemmy.world admins are a bit secretive about which communities they block, there is no published list anywhere I could find. If you find one let me know but AFAIK it does not exist.
So per your example .world members can see that instances are linked and federated (including dbzero) but there’s no indication about any blocked communities on those linked instances.
Come over to db0! We are huge stans of piracy \o/
Yeah, but the pro genAI stances kinda turns me away
You don’t have to join db0, just an instance that federates and then you can join the particular communities on db0 you want.
That why you sign up at an instance that’s not LW or db0 👍
Yeah, I hate that too, but db0 still works for me in literally every other facet.
But the pro gen-AI stance is really at odds with the otherwise anarchist-ish outlook of db0: replacing individual human creativity with something that by its very nature requires large corporations to even run, or just a TON of personal capital to run yourself.
it only really clicked for me when I heard it described as (anti-corpo) pro-genAI
so, pro the technology but fuck the big players in the scene… fuck the big players in any scene
much more selfhosted genAI stuff in those comms than your big names (I think, the corpo side of it has turned me off the whole jam too so I don’t browse them or anything but the position isn’t so at odds with the anarchism imo)
It’s actually pretty easy to run yourself.
Yeah, it’s not hard - but it requires pretty good tech is what the poster meant.
Ive tried running many times, its just so tiring.
How? I haven’t interacted with my setup besides using it in months and I’ve had no issues?
One foot in front of the other, my friend
The beauty of this platform is you can be a part of one thing but not the other
On lemmy.world it is dead, you need to pop over to DB0 or ml.
The world admins have the stance that they don’t want to host or directly link to piracy content because of the legal trouble it may bring as it’s hosted in the Netherlands and the piracy rules are different here.
I thought NL had great laws and that is why basically every seedbox provider is based there.
I had no idea, I heard they banned and then unbanned some piracy communities but that was it and it was a couple years ago. thanks for the context.
After it got banned the first time it got unbanned after the drama with the promise of more transparency and communication from the LW team. Then some months later someone allegedly uninformed (was that a new admin or smth?) banned it again without transparency and communication causing another drama but this time they sticked with the ban for good. At least that’s how I remember it going. If you dig into the old posts you will get a more accurate timeline.
This is news to me so thanks for the heads up.
I’m awaiting my db0 approval now.
yaarrrr matey! i did the same when I learned of .worlds nonsense on this
i don’t even really interact with the piracy comm but who tf do you think you are blocking my access to it? i wanna say they have no right but they do so that’s why I took my ball and went to play with the anarchists :)
read bread book
You don’t need to be registered there. Just at one that’s federated with it.
NL the world capital of usenet? That NL?
That NL, we also have quite a few banned domains here. Basically copyright organisations like Brein will sue everyone they can get away with. Unfortunately they have been succesfull on multiple occasions, mostly because the other party won’t show up in court and they win by default. Another thing they do is sue one of the large ISP’s for facilitating copyright infringement to get them to block sites like torrent sites. If the judge rules in their favor, then all Dutch ISP’s have to abide by the ruling.
How do you dont have rights when you dont show up?
If you don’t show up to defend yourself in court, then the other side gets to tell their story, and the judge has no choice but to find for them, since the defendant didn’t defend themselves.
No choice absolutely or in a practical sense?
No, that’s reality, it’s called a “Default Judgement.” If one party doesn’t show up in court, the other side automatically wins.
I guess the same way as with the Anna’s archive vs Spotify case in the US last week?
TIL .world blocks more communities than I though.
I mean, I don’t agree with everything dbzer0 (the instance) stands for, but it stands for freedom of speech and I’m with that.
It sounds like you want an account on dbzer0. You don’t need to give up your .world account or leave .world; the nice thing about federation is you can actually be on multiple instances. It’s kind of pointless in a way, but if your instance does something you don’t like, you can still federate through another instance. dbzer0 is my main/home instance (I have one other because I was PieFed-curious), but for .world and other bigger instance users, it’s a good side instance to keep an account with.
Another instance of all of this is that most instances defederate from the NSFW instance, so if you make an account there, your access to NSFW content is ensured. (Most defederate them for a good reason. I’ve never seen them post straight up CSAM, but they post stuff that blurs the lines. I think (and want to believe) they’re on the legal side, but I believe the confusion and questionable nature is intentional. Which is why some instances have defederated them, in case they cross that line (or maybe they have before).
dbzer0 doesn’t stand for Freedom of speech in the slightest. Look up the drama on why they defederated from feddit.org
Without exception, whenever someone complains about “freedom of speech”, XKCD 1357 applies.
Sorry for my ignorance, but how does one best research lemmy lore? IME search isn’t lemmy’s best feature.
- lurk moar
- locked community !fediverselore@lemmy.ca
- !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Start a community named !fediversedrama on actual free speech instance like sh.itjust.works or one of the piefed instances, shitpost until you attract drama.
Might be a good question for !asklemmy@lemmy.world. However lemmy.world is pretty restrictive, so your post might be locked or deleted.
Anyone could open a vote a refederate.
Any recommendation?
https://lemmy.zip/post/59366322
Lots of other links in the comments as well.
There were also posts on feddit.org about this, but I can’t find it at the moment because Lemmy‘s search sucks.
Piracy related communities are blocked on lemmy.world
Wow. The more I experience and learn about world, the more it starts to look like .ml but without the communism. Just a bunch of loosely moderated communities with low quality mods that only enforce rules when it hurts their feelings.
I could have stayed on reddit if I wanted to deal with this shit.
yes, redditors all fleeing to lemmy, made lemmy…just like reddit…
Lmao, .world and reddit are still worlds apart
It’s more liberal and not full of ads or bots. Those are the only differences I’ve seen.
Those are very big differences
Screw .world and the mods
I’m sure they’d invite you to hire the lawyers it’ll take to deal with the fallout of a lawsuit from hosting piracy comms when Sony comes hunting. Should be able to easily cover that with the scads of free-flowing donations pouring in from the notoriously wealthy Lemmings that use it.
your instance blocks piracy related communities. here in dbzero there is a very active piracy scene, it’s just defederated.
dbzero is defederated from or by lemmy.world?
lemmyworld defederates the dbzero piracy community. only that community though i think
Considering you posted on lemmy.world and the reply came from dbzero, it’s likely banned by lemmyworld. It’s your instance choosing not to federate with dbzero, but dbzero users can still see and engage with world posts.
Considering you posted on lemmy.world and the reply came from dbzero, it’s likely banned by lemmyworld.
The instance? No, a db0 user being able to reply herem proves the opposite. The instance is not fully blocked by lemmy.world. This is the only example that comes to mind of specific community defederation vs. instance as a whole.
World only defederated from the piracy communities, not the whole instance.
The community on Db0 seems quite active to me by Lemmy standards.
oh, well when i go to that community it says nothing is there?
It’s blocked by lemmy.world, like half the fediverse is.
Mander and most other instances don’t block them.
Lemmy.world has the problem of being large and successful. As a result they block a lot of instances and topics before they become a potential problem. They want to avoid litigation, and since they’re one of the largest instances they believe that they are a prime target should a crackdown on the fediverse happen.
lemmy should really show it when a comm is banned and let users know they can just switch instance instead of telling there’s nothing…
This would be a nice UX feature. Something like “This community has been banned/blocked from [INSTANCE] for [REASON].”
You would need to view the instance directly, not through lemmy.world due to the lemmy.world admins blocking it. I’m not sure if lemmy.world admins block links to it too but if you need a link look up all the Lemmy instances at https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active
Divisions by zero is currently the 7th most active Lemmy instance.
From there you’d just have to decide if you want to create an account at that instance itself, or just create an account at a different Lemmy instance that isn’t blocking piracy communities. I think lemmy.world admins may be the only ones actively blocking piracy communities… I haven’t heard of other admins at other instances doing that.
It doesnt look like anything to me either
Lemmy.world blocks and bans all piracy content. Leave the instance if you need it.
You don’t even have to leave, you can just make another account. But you can leave if you don’t agree with their policies.
Because you’re on a shit instance with terrible administration.
Aww, come now. I think Lemmy.world for sure has its place in the fediverse. It’s the first instance I would refer a normie to. Because they block a lot of shit. And they have a great domain name, easy to remember and tell someone about. Then someone like OP can post a question like this, and we can direct them to an instance that better suits their needs. That’s the beauty of the fediverse.
That’s basically how I went from world to piefed. I started getting back into using Soulseek but I couldn’t find anything except comments that world blocks piracy related topics. So I looked around and switched to here so I can see more stuff.
Their admins are literally genocidal zionists who advocate for the eradication of brown people.
Can you cite at least one example where the admins advocated for eradication of brown people or were literally genocidal zionists? I have the same amount of evidence at hand that marxismtomorrow is also one, i.e. nothing. You can DM me if you think you would get banned posting it on world.
LW is the worst Zionist instance. They go out of there to silence Palestinian issues and push Israeli victimhood.
Oh I was not aware of that.
Come to lemmy.today. everything is unblocked (probably)
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Everything here is dead in comparison to Reddit. Reddit has huge numbers of users and enough users to have constant active participation in even very niche communities. Lemmy has very limited numbers of users. You certainly won’t find niches here. Even popular things like piracy or even games and movies don’t get anywhere near as much active participation. The population here is also very different (very tech adept, mostly politically left, mostly older/millennial). People might just not need to ask any piracy questions because they’ve got a good handle on it anyway. Lemmy is nothing like Reddit. You mostly can’t expect as much engagement with your posts. I don’t even bother with subscribing to communities because they have such little content that it’s pointless to browse anything other than “all”. On Lemmy you only get what you get…whether you consider that a good or bad thing is up to you.
Reddit has huge numbers of bots
Fixed that for you,
There are far more bots that you realize.
Fake upvotes and fake comments, to drive the few people still on there to keep providing content for free.
very niche communities
True in general, yet reddit would never allow speaking openly of pirated content like you can do on the fediverse. Way too many corporate dicks in the fire over there these days
there aren’t many ‘piracy meme’ shitposts but info wise it seems to be good enough. the community is quite friendly and questions are well answered too.
They downvoted him because he spoke the truth.
I downvoted them because reddit does indeed have huge userbase if you count bot as user.
