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Another insultingly stupid take of blaming voters for the problems caused by greedy people. THIS VIOLATES RULE 1 of the forum.
How many times do I have to say it? The party lines are drawn in such a way to distract you from the actual cancer of late stage capitalism. Yeah yeah, “vote blue no matter who”. How about “educate your neighbors no matter who” to get some actual fucking change instead if this ridiculous in-fighting?
You act like there’s a way to get a republican to not vote republican. Hell, I don’t even know if there’s a way to get most democrats to not vote democrat. People don’t like having to think about a choice they already made. They’ve got their favorite political sports team, and they’ll wear those colors until they die.
Even my father in law, who is one of the most politically left people I know in real life, and has a degree in political science, thinks that anything more left than Obama is too far left. I’ve been trying to get him to admit that Bernie would be a better president than Obama for over 8 years now. If I can’t even change his mind, what chance to I have to change the minds of people who honestly think Trump is a viable choice?
Brother she ain’t running no more. What are you fucking talking about?
People not voting for her is why we’re where we are today.
Kamala losing is like part 250 of a 250 part shitshow that started with Reagan and that is why we’re here. You’re just conscious enough to be around for this latest bit and aren’t taught the previous ones in school, makes ya think?
Or maybe the fact that killing innocent children in Gaza was more important to her than winning the election is why we’re here today.
Nah. We’re here because braindead Americans can’t accept that they aren’t going to get a perfect candidate and are willing to burn their nation to the ground in retaliation for that.
Adults make the right decision, even if it isn’t perfect. Adults don’t need a candidate to be perfect in order to do what’s right for their nation and themselves.
Perfect is really doing some heavy lifting. Sure shes better. I would have voted for her if i was an US-American. But shes still garbage. She kind of is controlled opposition. Making us look away from what would be actually good vs whats better than the worst option. It serves to legitimize their position in fear of the alternative. Thats not democracy. I am not saying that you should not vote, endorse or even accept the shitstain we get in the USA that is represented by Trump but running to the Democrats as the goal or seeing voting as the primary political action is a big blunder in my eyes. (again do vote).
Every single candidate who could have won was pro-Israel. That’s the default position of the US government regardless of which party’s in power. It’s NOT the default position to randomly genocide, say, Iran, though. It is BS that you have to vote for more genocide support or less genocide support? Yes. But voting for more genocide support or not voting at all so the ones that support more genocide win worked out really well, huh?
So you’re saying the default position was to lose the election. She made the conscious decision to not want to win. All I’m hearing. There’s a pathway to win she chose to do the opposite.
You realize that presidential candidates also have to take international relations into account, right?
So breaking from Israel to win an election may not play out great with Israel after being elected. That goes for any of our allies.
But hey, we got a felon rapist pedophile that lets Israel tell him to do whatever they want him to do. So I guess that worked out for us, right?
Shame too many people are willfully ignorant to the blood on their hands.
Damn didn’t know people standing up to genocide are the reason we are still letting Israel genocide people. TIL.
The people who “stood up” to genocide allowed the ones who genocide MORE into power. Good job!
Oh so you can never hold anybody to a higher standard since there’s always someone worse out there. Interesting. Must be miserable always settling in life.
Oh so you can never hold anybody to a higher standard
Literally no one said that. You’re saying that to try to make your point stand, which it doesn’t.
there’s always someone worse out there
Sure is. Now they’re in power and things really aren’t going well.
Must be miserable always settling in life.
It’s called being an adult. A big part of being an adult is damage control. Welcome to reality, it’s far from perfect and sometimes you have to choose the path of least destruction.
You can indeed! But voting in the horribly broken US system is about harm reduction.
Alright well, enjoy voting for Gavin Newsom I guess. Crazy the election is 2 years away and we are already talking about “harm reduction”. Hope the DNC paycheck is worth it.
Again genocide isn’t a small thing, Harris also was very questionable on trans issues and extremely pro imperialism and cop.
Well it’s good that we went with the low IQ felon rapist pedophile fraud who threatens to wipe civilizations off the face of the Earth and robs us blind.
Man, we almost ended up with an imperfect highly educated black woman with no criminal indictments instead. Can you imagine?
You understand not voting beat both options right? It wasn’t a race between Kamala and Trump because they have isolated entrenched voter bases.
It was that a corpo cop who would keep the genocide on simmer and was anointed cantidate didn’t inspire many.
She lost to the couch.
Voting is a practical, political act, not a moral one. Anyone that tells you different is tricking you.
So, you’ve got zero problem with Trump voters on moral grounds, correct?
How could one possibly twist themselves into believing that a political act can somehow exist outside the realm of ethics and morality? Politics is ethics. Ethics are political. Why are you you trying to decouple these? Oh wait… its because yall will do whatever mental gymnastics are needed to justify voting for a genocidal, former cop.
Genocidal former cop.
Felon rapist pedophile fraud who threatens to wipe civilizations from the face of the Earth while robbing us blind and destroying all our alliances.
Man. That’s a tough fucking decision.
almost like any other option is better
In America’s general election you get two choices for president, the bad choice and the worse choice. That’s the undisputable reality. As South Park once elegantly put it, choose between the giant douche and the turd sandwich. Now, often times which candidate is which is a matter of perspective, but sometimes it’s pretty clear to see who the worse choice is.
For instance, so many people got on a high horse against Kamala for supporting Israel, and they weren’t wholly wrong, but her opponent was very well known for being an admirer of Netanyahu and never took a stance against the genocide either. So considering both parties seemed likely to let Israel keep on keeping on it was a very strange thing to get hung up on electorally; there was little to no chance that we’d have an election outcome would have ended well for Palestine regardless, and having lived through Trump’s first term and his attempted coup there was plenty of evidence to suggest that he would be the worse choice.
Now, many people used the argument that politics and ethics are completely inseparable, saw that both candidates would be bad for Palestine, then refused to vote on moral grounds, thereby doing their part in condemning America to its current circumstances of grappling with human rights crises at home. Thousands brutalized by ICE and CBP, shipped to torture centers for crimes the didn’t commit (e.g. El Salvador) children separated from parents (again) and effectively orphaned (again)… Much of this very much predictable given his first term. I’m not seeing this supposed moral high ground.
The act of voting is indeed a political act, and not a moral one. Ones politics and ethics may intertwine, but at the end of the day you only get two choices and changes are that in order to avoid the greater evil you need to ensure the lesser evil prevails. It shouldn’t work this way but sadly it does.
If you have to vote for someone who supports genocide you’re already fucked.
Well at least we ended up with the felon rapist pedophile fraud who threatens to wipe civilizations from the face of the Earth while robbing us blind instead of the flawed but highly educated black woman with no criminal record.
We really dodged a bullet, right?
You’re right. America is fucked, but speeding up it’s descent into fascism is bad praxis
Sure, but if you care about slowing the America’s descent into fascism, voting should not be your primary focus.
What does that mean, exactly?
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Genocide is by far one of the worst crimes against humanity. If someone supports genocide they are morally corrupt to the core. They don’t care if you live or die. They will sell you out the moment it gives them a personal advantage. What kind of democracy forces it’s citizens to choose between two such people?
Americans generally don’t support genocide nor do they want a leader who would treat them like chess pieces. Unfortunately, the American electoral system is incapable of reflecting popular sentiment. If it can’t do that, then it’s not a real democracy. Change can only come to the US if people learn to wield their collective power in ways that don’t depend on the elections. Barring that, Americans are fucked regardless of who they vote for.
Again, and this is painful to repeat so often:
- you have to pick one or you accept the worst case
- neither offered a different plan for american international involvement in the belligerent invasion, destruction and genocide in gaza
- one of them was vaaaaastly different in every other fucking respect
- single-issue voters are like crack to the conservative machine because they can use them so hard
- …second only to non-voters
I agree with your point, but you must agree there was absolutely no feasible outcome of this last voting process that had any advertised improvement for gaza from America – but there was at least hope in the candidate those losers didn’t vote for.
It’s always the same with common sense posts like yours on Lemmy. You get more upvotes than downvotes, which is good. But the number of downvotes is alarming and not a great sign for America’s future.
This country has a SERIOUS problem with common sense and accepting reality.
Except electorilism isn’t a useful never mind the only method for changing society, as well as other options even for voting and anti-genocide should be basic. Never mind Harris isn’t “vastly different” she promised the most lethal military, cracked down hard on sex workers, promised to be extremely tough on the border, as AG discriminated against imprisoned trans people, promised to increase police budgets and I could keep going.
So you’re saying you don’t grasp that it was either Harris or Trump and that there really is no argument for which one is worse?
Because that’s what the person you’re responding to is saying and you don’t appear to grasp it. Despite being a pretty simple concept.
Oh my god when will you people shut the fuck up about this
When you take responsibility for contributing to the fear many of us are feeling. Many of us have been forced to relocate or even flee the country because the government wants us dead. You essentially decided that one genocide wasn’t enough, and when shit really hits the fan, you better be on the fucking front lines
I have the same words for DNC leadership
I take responsibility but still think it was the correct choice not to vote for Kamala. This is because from my perspective the Democratic party relied on its voters usung harm reduction strategies in order to run candidates that don’t make anything better for regular people in the long run, other than some tiny little concessions as tribute.
Don’t think there can’t be worse presidents than Trump. Don’t think it can’t get worse here. Back when Bush was elected people thought he was the pinnacle too. And before that people thought that about Reagan. But people like YOU kept voting for the lesser evil, and the Democrats, who are on the side of billionaires just like every other politician, didn’t really make things better, kept cooperating with Republicans, and together they laid the groundwork that allowed Trump to be elected. If that pattern keeps up, one day (soon) we will have something worse than Trump.
I understand the current situation is worse than the situation would be if Kamala had won, but we have to draw the line before it gets even worse. The way it’s been going, the country was on an oscillating trajectory with a downward trend. Its shortsighted to only consider 4 years ahead. You’re thinking about yourself for the next couple years, I’m thinking about all the future generations after us for decades.
Anyways, I took responsibility, so please do your part and downvote Kamalaposts now
I take responsibility but still think it was the correct choice not to vote for Kamala.
I’m trying to imagine what happened to you in your life to make your brain believe it was right to make a move that resulted in what we’re currently experiencing.
Like, there really isn’t a debate here. Trump was absolutely a worse decision than Kamala. So not voting for Kamala when it came down to Trump and Kamala means your brain thinks Trump was a better option. Because it was one or the other…period. No 3rd party even came remotely close to winning. As in the 3rd party candidate with the most votes only got 0.5% of the total votes cast.
So…what exactly happened to your brain?
I have a fairly progressive friend group, and they still have problem with accelerationism in many contexts. They’re not the ones being hauled off to camps when they talk about more ICE getting white people to be so inconvenienced they finally vote to abolish it.
This mindset of I want to make a statement in a way that disregards the effect of how that statement is made on marginalized communities is still alive and well. You want the Dems to change, then you need to do actual leg work to support and lift up opposing candidates within the party. There’s no easy way out of this.
So just to be clear, I don’t hate you or anything, we’re trying to achieve basically the same goal, we want the same thing. Our disagreement is just about what actions will most effectively bring it about. That’s much better than the people who fundamentally want something different, so I want to be clear that I don’t wish to characterize you as “essentially identical” to those actual enemy groups.
Anyways, from my understanding of the world, you voting for Kamala also disregards the effect on marginalized communities, its just marginalized communities of 2030-2080 and possibly onwards, rather than the communities of 2025-2030 which you are more directly affected by. That’s the way I see it, at least. Its funny because really both the people who voted for Kamala and the people who don’t are thinking to themselves: “this isn’t how I really want things to go, but its a noble sacrifice to make for the greater good”. I think the disagreement between the two groups truly comes down to complexities of which method will actually end up bringing about change. I leaned towards the choice I took, because when I look at the political history of this country since the 80s, it seems as though the Democrats have gone soft as representatives, which created that famous political ratchet effect.
I’m sorry, and I know this sounds like me just being lazy, but I truly do not believe putting in the leg work to change the party this way will matter. I know people who burnt literal years doing grassroots campaigning for truly progressive candidates and it went nowhere. I’ve been to more than a few of those types of events where everyone is trying to change the system the way it’s supposed to be changed. But you know why those people never went any further? Because the party didn’t need them to, because the party can get the votes they need AND have their donor cake too, because even many of the people in these grassroots campaigns will fall in line to vote for the normie candidate when the time comes and the Democrats know that. They know it because of the millions of dollars they spend to verify and ensure it for themselves.
So to me, since the “lift up opposing candidates” thing has been failing for 50 years, and the “blue no matter who” thing has been making things worse for 50 years, the only thing left to try is not voting. That’s the one thing that might actually hit Democratic politicians where it hurts (their power/money). I know its not your strategy and you have every right to keep trying yours too, even though I think your strategy is part of the problem and you think the same about mine. I think the only way to come to a consensus is to debate why we expect one strategy to work better, and so far I feel like recent political history is clearly on my side. But I am interested in hearing counterarguments.
But everyone should understand that continually posting this Kamala shame stuff just makes people like me drastically less willing to hear those counterarguments, because it demonstrates how the people making them haven’t even bothered to properly understand the nuance of our voting reasons, and instead prefer to strawman us as dumbly caring only about Middle Eastern genocides above all else.
Our disagreement is just about what actions will most effectively bring it about.
Yeah.
You admitted you didn’t vote for either of the only two candidates that could win the presidency. So you voted 3rd party? Or didn’t vote at all?
If you didn’t vote at all I have zero respect for you and you shouldn’t even bother to continue reading. I don’t really have any interest in conversing with people who don’t respect the democracy people died to give them by not participating.
If you voted 3rd party, do you not understand that you can’t just vote 3rd party for president and expect it to magically happen? It will be MANY years before that’s even a possibility. And it will only be a possibility if people start taking local/state elections seriously and start getting 3rd party candidates in Congress, because there are currently NONE.
So logic states you vote 3rd party in local/state elections and then perform DAMAGE CONTROL in the presidential election by selecting the one that isn’t a felon rapist pedophile fraud.
I mean this is all just simple common sense.
You have to understand people keep posting the Kamala stuff because people like you fucked up BIG TIME and a lot of people are suffering for it. You’re going to keep seeing the anger and the finger pointing.
So it seems like we both think the other tact is ineffectual, because if progressives don’t vote, then Democrats will simply court Republican voters instead which they are currently doing (multiple candidates have tried out throwing LGBTQ people under bus in the coming primary alread). They don’t care about ideology, or even being in power. They just want to be able to cash checks from donors.
You need to inject new influence into the party, from my perspective your approach is harmful in both the short and long term.
Ideally we have a system that makes third parties viable, but we don’t so we need to treat a faction within the democratic caucus as a third party and have them primary sitting candidates and influence policy until they have enough members to drive out the old guard. Actual progress is not immediately visible.
You’re thinking about yourself for the next couple years,
How dare I think about my own desire to not starve to death in a repurposed K-Mart
Its just confusing because I’m told I should have voted for Kamala because:
- I need to think about more people than myself
- Sometimes we need to pick a lesser evil for the practical benefit of more people
- I need to make personal and ideological sacrifices for the greater good
- I need to accept that hard choices have to be made and be willing to take real action even if it inconveniences me
- I can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good
But from my perspective, that’s exactly what I AM doing, in fact to an even greater extent, by not voting for Kamala. And when I bring this up, suddenly your rebuttal is that actually I should be picking… What’s best for me personally in the next couple of years?
I knew Trump winning would mean disaster for me, my family, my friends. But I felt like Kamala winning would just buy us a few more years of relative peace (at the continued expense of exploiting much of the rest of the world), only to then land us with the same ultimatum ,but with higher stakes, four years later. So I:
- Thought about more people than myself, my friends, my family. I also thought about their kids, and people all over the world, and about millions of people who haven’t even been born yet but one day will grow up under the same horrible America that we’ll still have even if progressives manage to undo the last 20 years of crazy.
- Picked a lesser evil (Trump now) over a greater evil (another century of stable American evil at home and abroad) for the practical benefit of more people (future people and young people)
- Made personal sacrifices (I need to plan to leave the country) and ideological sacrifices (I don’t like picking lesser evils! I wish I could only ever pick good things!)
- Accepted hard choices (not voting for Kamala) and was willing to take real action (selling all my stuff, boycotting corporations, giving up a hundred comforts, and preparing to leave the country)
- Didn’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good: Of course not voting for Kamala would ideally not be so catastrophic. Ideally vote boycotting would have started decades ago. But oh well, we can’t have things be perfect, so I guess starting the change now, messy and painful as it is for me today, will be good for future generations after me
I knew Trump winning would mean disaster for me, my family, my friends. But I felt like Kamala winning would just buy us a few more years of relative peace
It’s like you already know the answer, but you STILL did the wrong thing.
And you justify it by ASSUMING the stakes would be higher 4 years later? How so? How would it be WORSE after 4 years of a LESS bad president? That makes no logical sense.
Ideally vote boycotting would have started decades ago. But oh well, we can’t have things be perfect, so I guess starting the change now
What the actual fuck? There is NO SITUATION in which choosing to not exercise the power to vote that a fuck ton of people died to give you is the right thing to do. You use that power to primary bad actors out of the party you most agree with, so you can reform that party. Something that’s happened multiple times throughout U.S. history.
Anyone that utters the phrase “vote boycotting” needs to stop and re-evaluate their lives. That shit is downright disrespectful.
I hate Kamala, I think she’s a terrible candidate and don’t disagree that she would’ve just bought us more time. But it’s easier to fight back with a persistent cold than with supertuberculosis.
Because Trump got elected, my partner and I uprooted our lives, said goodbye to a massive community of people, gave up multiple career prospects, and moved to another country. I’m a trans latina immigrant in a gay relationship, so enemy of the state #1. The battle isn’t over either as we’re now dealing with immigration. I’m not legally allowed to work so I’m just living off savings right now, and effectively starting from 0. I still worry about my friends back home, many of which are also trans immigrants but who lack the opportunity to move, who are now scrambling to stockpile meds and fighting daily to continue living. I’ve had to talk friends down from suicide. I have never cried as much as I have in the last year. And I’m just one person.
So thank you for that, your direct lack of action contributed to it. I hope your horse was worth the blood on your hands
It was, you’re welcome. Now go be selfish somewhere else
Edit:
(If its not obvious, I don’t mean this, but figured I’d show you what its like for someone to disregard 90% of your post and call you selfish when you explicitly made an argument for why you’re not)
You can insult me all you want, but I listed out plenty of reasons for why you’re the one sacrificing others in order to sit on your high horse of having voted for Kamala. But you fall back to insults because you can’t actually address my points. You are selfishly choosing the well-being of your immediate social group over millions of people in the present and future.
Now go be selfish somewhere else
Says the asshole who “vote boycotted”.
Seriously dude. Fuck you.
Democrats are also anti-trans
And Northern States were more supportive of Black Americans than Southern States after the civil war, yet no one would say they weren’t racist.
And yet there’s a huge difference between people in power saying transphobic things and actually passing transphobic laws.
We don’t have to settle.
The dnc is at fault here for not letting us choose the democratic nominee.
This is not on the people.
It’s not about you, it’s about the people who are harmed as a result of your choice.
You don’t have to settle, but the way you do that is by actively backing people you support into positions of power.
People are looking at candidates like Mamdani and seeing things better when corrupt establishment figures are left by the wayside which is causing more support for professivr candidates. This is leading from the front by making positive impacts instead of resignation to corrupt systems and making destructive and ineffectual half hearted measures.
Pretty sure nobody who objected to Kopmala’s enthusiastic genocide support voted for Trump
Redirect some of that anger your boss and landlord told you to point left at the party who couldn’t come up with a candidate that could beat Trump, twice. Then save a little for all the happy, complacent Liberals who think that a quadrennial choice between “the untenable status quo” and “make everything worse” is a functional democracy worth saving or mourning.
who keeps upvoting this bullshit?
I think we got a new wave of redditors who showed up recently or something because I’ve seen the stupidest shit on lemmy the last week
It’s the removal of r/all.
I saw hasan piker community on here today and that’s how I know we’re cooked
Delete this shitty fucking post. Dems put up a garbage candidate, and they lost the easiest race imaginable, for a second time.
The Democratic Party actively courted right wing voters. The left obviously didn’t want that, and the right was never going to vote for you anyway. You lost. Get over it. Start doing something actually useful instead of removed and whining.
Anyone with any institutional fealty to the Democratic Party should be so embarrased, they never show their face in public again. But instead, they just punch left, and smugly act like their own failures were someone else’s fault.
Anyway, I’m off to go do real activism in my local community, with organizations that actually give a shit about me and my neighbors.
It’s true.
Democrats are fucking stupid. The voters told you what they wanted, and it was affordability and no more WMD’s for Israel, and Dems concluded it was too much to ask. Of course people didn’t want to fucking vote for you.
That’s why we need ranked choice voting
True.
Unfortunately my state just voted to ban it.
Bruh, which state is it?
dems keep losing because they rather suckle on AIPAC’S limp dick than serve their constituents.
Thankfully this is starting to change, albeit not fast enough. AIPAC tried to mess with a congressional primary in NJ (NJ 11); they threw all their weight behind trashing one of the “moderate” candidates they felt wasn’t pro-Israel enough, thinking their pro-Israel candidate would win. Instead, Analilia Mejia won, and she’s not an Israel supporter at all, very progressive.
same in my local Dems party. AIPAC is struggling against candidates who vowed not to take a penny from them.
I dunno what it is about hardliners, but they always seem to gravely misjudge the negative downstream impacts of their actions. Hopefully this groundswell continues against them.
Not only that, Democrats were being useless at best damaging at worst, babies dying and baby formula shortages, inflation and proven price gouging, continuing government contracts with Amazon while Amazon was quelling unions, forcing rejected contracts on railroad workers, letting private equity buy up all the hospitals, housing becoming unaffordable, being pro-police, supporting big tech low regulation companies, supporting Liz Cheney, talking about loving guns, losing Roe v Wade, Used car prices were skyrocketing, Promised marijuanna users would be released from prison but didn’t, made solar panels more expensive, student loans being out of control and college costs skyrocketing with subsidizing that being the only “solution “, letting reporters be killed by Israel, drone striking and funding massive military spending. What even is the Democrat base? What single issue voter did they NOT alienate? Maaaaybe the LGBT, Atheists, No Trump and Science Grant crowd?
TLDR: Dems before the election alienated XWorkers XFarmers XCollege students XPro-Choice XGun Control XNo War XUnions XMarijuanna Users XMuslims XEnvironmentalists XMothers X People who wanted a house in the future XPeople who wanted action X People who hate Omnibus legislation and big government spending (a smaller portion of democrats for sure.)
(I still voted for Harris not that it matters in a red or blue state)
Harris didn’t even put out a platform until weeks before the election. It was a pathetic campaign.
This is stupid people who didn’t like Kamala because the was a genocide enabler weren’t saying vote Trump wtf.
And anyway shit’s over. This finger wagging told-ya-so bullshit is less than worthless. It’s abundantly clear you can still lose to the worst person alive if people don’t like you… So maybe force the Dems to run someone decent or make the Dems disappear. You’re not gonna shame the electorate into the lesser of two evils crap, how have you not seen this yet? Regardless of how logical you think it is or how right you think you are. I think it’s clear it’s not working.
I just think the worse thing now is seeing the current lineup of candidates for 2028… shes still there and so are a bunch of others im pretty sure nobody wants.
Ro Khanna toed the line on pushing for Epstein disclosures. That’s probably going my litmus test for humans vgoing forward, regardless whether he is permitted to progress
In the neo-liberal brain and rhetoric that’s how they have to argue to get you to swallow the poison of the “lesser evil.”
Dude could actually nuke Iran and kill millions and dumb assholes online still wouldn’t concede that he is and was obviously the worse evil.
people aren’t saying that Kamala wasn’t the lesser evil. They are saying that running evil candidates suppresses voter turnout and that doing so is a loosing strategy (unless doing evil is your gole, like the GOP)
The difference between terrible and more terrible is a thin line. If you think the world is only binary choices then you’re the type of person leftist rail against. There’s more choices but Democrats would have you believe there isn’t.
I know many Muslims in Michigan that voted for Trump because Kamala supported Israel…
Sometimes what you don’t say is more important than what you do say. Many on the left were manipulated and used to boost the fascist. Something many to this day are still too sensitive about to acknowledge.
There wasn’t Mass coverage and protest that all major party candidates supported the genocide. Only Harris. In all the Zionist and oligarch media, every day it was wall to wall coverage of the people calling Harris out over it. It was legitimately used to launder Donald Trump’s image.
The fact that the vitriol and hatred that anyone who pointed this out got back then. And still gets today, proves that many failed to learn the important lesson. While they were absolutely correct to criticize Harris for her support. They were wrong to only focus on her over it. Even if symptoms like trump and everyone in his administration met the gallows tomorrow. These same people will continue to naively allow themselves to be weaponized against the achievable over the perfect. Ultimately getting more symptoms elected in the future, and allowing the Overton window to ratchet further and further to the right. National Democrats are horrible allies, they’re unfortunately the best we have.
Duverger’s law, the way the elections are winner takes all makes it mathematically certain there are only two viable options. It’s basic math which people failed at.
Which makes it all the more important for candidate not to pull a Harris and try to gaslight voters.
When parties are roughly evenly matched, elections often turn on irrelevant or misleading considerations such as economic spurts or downturns beyond the incumbents’ control; the outcomes are essentially random. Thus, voters do not control the course of public policy, even indirectly.
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691169446/democracy-for-realists
You also have to include the swing states having a highly disproportionate amount of voting power, the wealthy having a disproportionate amount of influence, and the electoral college making small farm states election makers
Acting like Harris is an ally for queer people and isn’t an imperialist is genuinely out of touch with reality. I get you want to blame people because the “worse” white supremacist was elected, but narratives like this will be used by the Democratic Party to continue the fascism if and when the Republicans lose power. Gavin Newsom isn’t intentionally abandoning pro-queer performative politics for nothing.
Two things can be bad.
My handler said it was my turn to post “whatabout kamala” post today.
😡😡😡
It is the sole argument from the losing coalition of conservstive democrats and liberal zionists.
These people were fully convinced to defend and support a genocide. It’s easier for them to dive deeper into the AIPAC coalition than to reject it.
