Notes the tankies getting triggered by liberal violence against klansmen.
Fans of Asmongold are NOT people
Yes because the answer to fascism is blue fascist rhetoric
I don’t know who this is but I will blindly follow your dehumanizing fellow brother!!
TLDR A streamer that lives in filth and says he used the sun beams from his window causing a dead rat to smell as an alarm clock.
What a terrible day to have eyes.
I barely know who he is, and what I do know is horrible, but that seems like an incredibly obvious joke
That is pretty funny XD
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There’sa pretty great modern comic I got from the library: Superman Smashes the Klan. Tells a story about a Chinese family moving into Metropolis and getting marginalized, has some good hero moments as well as identity moments for Superman - who, of course, is not from America.
I’d really love it if we had more modern media that sets aside the “complex, humanized villains” trend and just has Nazis as villains to get decimated.
What’s really great about that comic is it’s a loose adaptation of a 1946 episode of the Adventures of Superman radio show called “Clan of the Fiery Cross,” wherein Superman also takes on the Klan.
Klan membership went down after the broadcast aired, partially because fathers couldn’t really explain to their kids why Superman wanted to fight the Klan.
It’s credited pretty heavily with weakening Klan membership at the time of release, and it’s on YouTube.
This is kinda unrelated, but you were mentioning some of the identity moments in the comic. I really appreciated how they did some similar commentary in the new movie as well and, since I had never seen those themes focused on in Superman, I did some research into the history of immigration commentary in Superman.
Anyway, that’s how I found out there’s an adaptation from the 1980s where the life pod carrying Superman actually just contains DNA which it then assembles into Superman, all so Superman can be an American-born citizen. The 80s were one of the decades of all time.
It’s credited pretty heavily with weakening the Klan
That’s interesting, because the Klan was fairly weak by the 40’s. It peaked in the 1920s (something like 1 in 3 white Indianans were members in its heyday, to the point where Klan chapters would have baseball teams), but there were some huge political scandals and infighting over embezzlement that absolutely demolished the Second Klan.
I suppose weakening Klan membership at the time of release would be more accurate, I’ll add it to the post
The second Klan was formally disbanded for tax reasons in 1944, a couple of years before The Clan of the Fiery Cross. I think the argument might be more that the Superman episode kept the Klan from rising again. It was already profoundly unpopular in the war era due to some connections with the American Bund.
The best part about the entirety of this comic is that Nazis are the exception to Batman’s “No Killing” rule. He straight up murders a dozen Nazis before a priest stops him.
It’s about time Nazis see that the world feels the same about them that they feel about others.
Nazies aren’t people.
Saying they aren’t people denies the evil that humans are capable. By calling bad people inhuman, it allows us to forget that we are able to choose evil.
There are only nine meals between mankind and
anarchyfascism.You cannot discount how many modern American fascists are pulled from the ranks of the unemployable post-industrial underclass. How many people are signing up for ICE strictly for a paycheck? How many signed up for the National Guard or enlisted in our imperial wars overseas for the GI benefits? How many people could have been EMS or construction workers or ag workers with a paycheck that covered cost of living or white collar schlubs doing email jobs, but are instead getting handed tasers and zip ties and an unlimited license to do violence to their neighbors?
They’re people. They’re all people. But for the grace of god, you too could be pulling a turtleneck over your nose and kicking a woman’s teeth in while she screaming “don’t take my baby”, because you’ve gone through the two weeks of Clockwork Orange training that turns unemployed middle aged men into monsters of the state.
All people are people. Dehumanizing someone is a great technique for authoritarian regimes, but should be resisted by everyone else.
Dehumanizing:
I treat people the way they treat other people.
If Nazis say a group of people aren’t people, then Nazis aren’t people.
Nazis are vermin that should be exterminated. A cancer on humanity that should be cut out with a big knife.
And if they don’t like that, then they should change their mentality.
I think the nuance is that Nazis ought to be acknowledged as being people, but not afforded any of the respects and graces the Nazis themselves deny others.
I treat people the way they treat other people.
No you don’t. You treat people the way you can get away with.
If an ICE agent bumped into you on the street tomorrow, you’d tip your fucking hat and keep your eyes down, because you were terrified of what he’d do to you if you didn’t.
Nazis are vermin that should be exterminated.
That’s a Based Cool Chad thing to say from behind an anonymous internet account on Lemmy Safe Spaces, right? Very cool to whisper it into a hole in the ground so you can feel tough.
But will you wave a fucking banner with that shit in front of an ICE facility and see what happens next? Will you point a gun at any of these guys?
Nah they decided they don’t want to be people. They see themselves as better. Not better people, just better. Therefore they aren’t people, by their own admission.
They hate us for existing, we hate them for the harm they cause others. We are not the same.
And for all the individuals clutching their pearls over my comment please realize that I know what I said is right because when none Nazies (aka Antifa) are in charge literal Nazies are not being rounded up and sent to gas chambers! Could we say the same of the Nazies were in charge?!
I don’t want Nazies dead. But they are not people.
Absolutely this. This is crucial to resisting fascism in its various forms: dehumanising is an extremely dangerous slope and used to prepare people to accept unacceptable things.
TERFs are people. Nazis are people. Murderers and rapists are people. Fans of Asmongold are people.
It may be hard to accept, and tempting to dehumanise, but please don’t.
Ahahahaah love the “Fans of Asmongold” jab
Yea nah, if somebody considers that I should be killed because race, or whatever else, they are not human to me.
I will not be held to a high standard of humanity by somebody that has no standard in respect to me.
Nazis are people who need to be forcibly reeducated, and the only way to get there historically is through violence.
id rather see them rehabilitated in jail, what you want is no different than what nazis do.
What exactly did you think I meant by “forcibly reeducated” if not rehabilitated in prison?
what do you mean by forcibly
I mean putting Nazis in reeducation camps compulsorily. The problem is that normally, Nazis tend to get propped into power by capitalists, and the historical way to remove them from power is through socialist revolution.
All fundamentalists should be reeducated.
Reeducation through violence is the methodology of totalitarian regimes, like the Third Reich, the USSR/russia, or China.
ok china we get it, your “re-education” camps work well for your brainwashing
Good luck debating Nazis. The USSR famously defeated them, BTW, you can thank them for being alive today if you’re European.
I suppose you decry the violence that the USA exerted on Nazi Germany?
Good luck debating Nazis
Who said anything about debating?
The USSR famously defeated them
LOL, good one! :D
BTW, you can thank them for being alive today if you’re European.
I’m from one of the countries that suffered massive atrocities under the bastards.
I suppose you decry the violence that the USA exerted on Nazi Germany?
I suppose you don’t understand the difference between war and peace? Actually makes sense considering the bullshit you’re saying about russians…
The fact that you’re even questioning that the USSR defeated Nazism proves that you have no idea what you’re talking about. 80% of dead Nazi soldiers were thanks to the eastern front. 25 million Soviet lives were eliminated in the struggle against fascism.
I’m from one of the countries that suffered massive atrocities under the bastards
Oh no, the atrocities of universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, industrialization, guaranteed employment and the abolishment of homelessness. What a horrifying regime. Eastern Europe is so much better now that capitalism returned and you have wars again. I bet my ass your childhood was after 1990 and you’re just repeating capitalist anticommunist propaganda.
I suppose you don’t understand the difference between war and peace?
There is no peace with Nazis, they only understand genocide and invasion.
the bullshit you’re saying about russians
I didn’t say the word “Russians” in my previous comment. I mentioned the USSR being the reason why Nazis didn’t exterminate your ethnicity, but the USSR was a plurinational state composed of many ethnicities. Many Ukrainians, Belarusians, Uzbeki, Kazakh, and many of the nationalities of Russia such as Bashkir, Slavic Russians or Mari gave their lives defending your family from Nazism. Have some respect for all the brave soldiers who fought so that you can spew bullshit online today.
What an extremely Nazi thing to say…
Just watched Inglorious Basterds again yesterday, it put a smile on my face seeing those Nazi clowns turned into Swiss cheese
More like chewed out. I’ve been chewed out before.
you should talk to someone about that
It’s on the list with my 11 year old this weekend.
Thats absurd.
Why? He’s responsible enough and I trust him. He knows right from wrong and really enjoys history. You raise yours however you want.
I think you aren’t responsible and have poor judgment, but of course you are free to do whatever.
Also, inglorious basterds is not a historical film, there is nothing to learn.
Nothing to learn about historical facts of 1939-45, yes. But there’s a ton of other stuff you can get out of it.
Not if you’re eleven years old though, I concur. Better to wait until you can process such films - and not run the risk of getting harmed by the experience (which also a good parent would keep in mind IMHO).
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Even more absurd take… if he enjoys history you can watch a documentary or read book.
I really enjoy Tarantinos movies and part of it is due to its clever and well written dialogs and over the top violence. They are not movie meant for children. No matter how mature they appear, that’s just it, its appearance. Maturity comes from life experience and an eleven year old child has very little of that.
Do better.
Raise your own kids and fuck off about other people’s kids. You do better you shriveled nutsack.
You are literally the person who brought your kid into this discussion. You dont seem like a great person based on your posts but maybe its just an off night. Or you are extremely young.
Your poor kid
The best part about the entirety of this comic is that Nazis are the exception to Batman’s “No Killing” rule.
It’s curious, because Batman’s always been tinged with reactionary politics. You’ve got your Eco-Terrorist in Poison Ivy, your Unfuckable Migrant Gangster in Penguin, your Smug Ivory Tower Elitist in Riddler, your corrupt hedonist politician in Two Face, and your Psycho Carny/Gypsie/Vagrant in The Joker. The Feds are all useless or complicit. The Arkham Asylum is all Hugs for Thugs (when they’re not doing Clockwork Orange shit to turn supervillains into weapons of the state). The only person you can trust is a billionaire vigilante working with the silent consent of a handful of “Good Cops” who turn a blind eye to his paramilitary crusade.
Writing Batman as “Anti-KKK” really loses track of the origins of the character. This guy basically IS the KKK, or at least some Disney-fied crime-fighting John Galt equivalent.
It’s about time Nazis see that the world feels the same about them that they feel about others.
Nazis have always had their own fascist media. Writing the “Batman that punches the Skinhead” comic does nothing to deter the actual white nationalists who are generating reams and reams of AI Slop where Charlie Kirk with angel wings guns down a rampaging horde of blue-haired ISIS day laborers.
The back-and-forth of the culture war isn’t new. FFS, look at the Frank Miller Batman of the '00s. Or the Batman as depicted in Red Son, who serves as Superman’s foil because his parents were dissident kulaks murdered by Superman’s alt-history adopted father, Joseph Stalin.
Writing Batman as “Anti-KKK” really loses track of the origins of the character. This guy basically IS the KKK
Imma need you to explain
When Batman beats goons to a pulp because they supposedly deserve it, he’s approaching criminality as a moral choice. There’s an obvious correlation between social inequality and criminality, and it’s simplistic and dangerous to say some people are just “bad.” Still, when Batman goes out at night breaking bones, he ignores the core issues of Gotham City’s economy and simply flexes his millionaire’s muscles. By the way, this is the main argument used to defend the idea that Batman is fascist.
This is, incidentally, the rationale du jour of Red Scare Era KKK. Lynching black labor activists for agitating against the local government. Batman quite literally hangs people from lampposts, in a manner highly reminiscent of the “strange fruit” Billie Holiday sings about. They also popularized “policing” neighborhoods through night raids against black businesses that were deemed “criminal” purely through their relative success. Again, this goes to the manner in which Batman routinely roughs up members of the “legitimate” side of (what the author has decided are) criminal businesses.
Bruce Wayne’s vast financial resources only complicates the Batman character. The idea of a millionaire spending thousands of dollars on gadgets he uses to beat down poor criminals is problematic, to say the least.
It should be noted how many members of the Klan were, themselves, landlords and politicians and industrial millionaires of the era. They used their superior resources and their political connections with the police to engage in violent vigilantism against “criminals” like Emmett Till and Joe Spinner Johnson. And they organized within the Klan to promote racist policies at the public level, in the same way that Wayne Enterprises influences politics in Gotham City.
Let’s take Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns timeline, for instance. That Batman is unquestionably a fascist.
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Batman puts himself above the law and brainwashes an army of lost souls to enact his will, crushing everyone he defines as an enemy. Instead of acting on a moral gray area, Miller’s take on Batman extrapolates some of the Dark Knight’s tendencies to show how the vigilante’s crusade against crime could turn him into a full-blown fascist.
Probably the most naked example.
Obviously, this varies by writer. And you can always find more liberal/leftist authors who have re-positioned Batman as explicitly anti-slavery, anti-apartheid, and pro-union labor. But these are very novel interpretations, relative to the character as originally portrayed.
Nazis are Western “team killers”, everyone hates them, lol.
“It doesn’t bend that way!”
“It does now”.
He twisted the elbow the same way the swastika was twisted for hatred.
I agree.
I can’t get over the fact that there was a White Power Ranger.
Wasn’t it just an American carbon copy of a Japanese show?
Redubbed I think, at least in costumes.
The footage of them in full face obscuring costumes, along with the mecha, is mostly straight from various Japanese shows, overdubbed into English. The US production company got Japan to shoot a little bit of extra content when Mighty Morphin Power Rangers became a smash hit, before they started rotating to other Japanese series to take footage from. You can make more money off of the toys, anyway, if you have new action figures and mechs every year.
There was also a Black Power Ranger.
What’s your point?
Black ranger was part of the OG rangers. White ranger was a Johnny come lately hanger on. I thought this as a 13 year old kid when that season came out.
And the blue one was gay, got a lot of hate from the other actors. Yellow one was Asian. 90s was weird man.
All lives matter energy
Are you being purposely stupid?
Are you?
None of those character designs had any racist imagery, to suggest that it’s something to do with “white power” is seriously reaching because you want to be offended by something.
There was a yellow power ranger too, what’s your point
And now he has a lifelong financial debt to a Wayne industries related hospital.
(Batman didn’t even hear him or see the salute, he just goes around at night doing that sort of thing.)
Unfortunately this is an alternate Batman, where Wayne Industries doesn’t exist.
Although…I would love to see an issue where this Bats just goes to town on the health insurance industry. I wouldn’t put it past them either if they were willing to publish this thinly veiled allegory for MAGA being Nazis.
Huh, a Joker billionaire by Scott Snyder?
This might be worth checking out, thx!!That looks like a great reinterpretation of the character. Thanks for pointing this out!
In the absolute universe Darkseid takes away the hero’s “light”. Superman grows up without his adopted parents, wonder woman without the Amazon’s, and batman has no money. His mom is alive though.
I gotta read more comics …
Bro just wanted to share the stoke for the upcoming snowboarding season. What a shame.
POW!
I feel they really missed the opportunity to throw in the old school pow! bubble to cover the strike, of course making sure it’s all super white.
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this goes hard. may i screenshot?
What are they gonna do if they say no and you do it anyway?
You can also just download the image.
This is Absolute Batman, just read it. 13 issues so far.
I don’t really understand white supremecy from a fundamental level. Like, genetically, we’re pretty crap. If there were racial selection on the character creation screen of life, I wouldn’t have rolled this inferior shit.
You are thinking about it way more than any white supremacist does
This guy internalised Advanced Race Theory.
There are no biological races in humanity. Nothing that can be compared to dogs for instance. On top of that “white” as a biological marker to define a group makes as much sense as “tall” or “small hands”, ie: none.
We humans are pretty varied lot, people have wanted to create categories for ages and have done so, but those are social categories.
Don’t claim some races are inferior to others, you are only encouraging them.
White people are great at getting rheumatoid arthritis too!
With your logic, enlighten us to which race you’d choose to be? A “Master race” if you will.
transformer. fucking transform into a godamm tank would be sick.
I’m tempted to say something famous like the Indy 500, but I think I would be a simple 5K
Khajiit.
“i have the wares if you have the coin”
MotoGP
Thats why they are the way they are. They know the only way they keep the power is doing shady ass shit.
No. Most racists are not people in power, and having “inferior” white skin (not a downgrade, just a sidegrade for the combination of northern latitudes and agriculture) applies to a lot more people than just the racists.
The reason that they are the way they are, is that it’s an easy outlet for the anger caused by probably a myriad of reasons, some common, some more specific to the person in question. I’d be willing to bet that financial insecurity caused by neoliberalism is pretty high up on that list for many, and that’s why actually powerful people like to promote racism to divert the anger elsewhere.
White people are better at drinking milk and absorbing vitamin D.
Spending all day inside and sexually abusing cows, that’s what whiteness is good for.
nice racism.
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