• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 hours ago

      Israel started genociding Palestinians all the way back in the 1940s with the Nakba.

      You can only claim this was “started” by Palestinians by very purposefully and very selectivelly choosing a cut-off point in time and refusing to acknowledge anything that happened before that.

      Further, even if we accepted your incredibly selective time window to support the claim that “Hamas started it”, after the “who started it” comes the issue of “is the response of the injured part proportionate”, and given that the number of just the children in Gaza killed by Israel actually exceeds even Israel’s own claimed number of israelis killed in October 2024 by at least a factor of 10x, the response is undeniably incredibly disproportionate.

      Taking in account the entirety of History as well as the number and nature of those killed by both sides, the reality of what we see now is an invading and occupying group - Israelis - who have been stealing from and killing the people of the land they occupied for almost a century, responded to the latest response from a Resistance groups of the people whose land is occupied with an incredibly disproportionate response were the civilians themselves (including children) were activelly targetted, to the point that they exceeded the violence and murderousness of the actual NAZIs in similar situations in the land they occupied during WWII - the NAZIs killed far fewer civilians in Occupied France as “punishment” for the actions of the Resistance Française than Israelis killed just in this one instance of response to the actions of the Palestinian Resistance.

      It’s pretty spectacular to surpass even the NAZIs in murderousness.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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      12 hours ago

      Why is this argument with Israel always so one sided.

      Because the war is onesided? It’s less of a war but a slaughter. There’s a lot more proof against Israel doing horrible thing to palestinian than hamas did to israeli, obviously people gonna lock in on that.