Germany murdered many millions of people in France and Poland during its two “yay blood and iron; let’s conquer the world and get the word genocide invented” attempts.
Russia shouldn’t be waging a war of conquest on Ukraine, but since we’re comparing them to Germany, it’s clear which is worse
Germany is a has-been country that basically just helps Israel commit genocide, but not really much else.
The US didn’t exactly ever stop killing millions of people. They just hop country to country, Philippines to Korea to Indonesia to Vietnam to Iraq, a million here and a million there, spreading death and destruction all around the world. Those are just the big ones, if we start including the tens and hundreds of thousands there’s Chile, Argentina, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Gaza, and on and on.
Remember, we’re talking about what country is the biggest threat to the world. It’s not China and it’s not Russia.
You can appreciate which event is more recent given this is a contemporary poll and the amount of propaganda the US would have fed the Phillipines since then.
But, this poll still shows that people in the Philippines still see the US as the greater threat? Despite China’s more recent spat in the South China Sea, despite the propaganda, the Philippines still sees the US as the greatest threat to the world. Japan is the only country that sees China as a threat, which mostly stems from imperial humiliation at China defeating Japanese occupation.
It’s not logical, though, it actually reveals an illogical bias. Local disputes over fishing and territory simply aren’t as big a threat to the world as the warmongering empire that killed a million Filipinos and is currently plunging the world into an energy crisis.
That’s not what the survey shows. The survey shows that, actually, propaganda and recency bias aren’t enough. People can access news from around the world these days and they remember their nation’s history. If anything, my beliefs are vindicated.
But you’re missing the point of the survey, which literally shows that it doesn’t. It turns out, no, you can’t just assume that recent events play more into people’s minds. They’re not gold fish. They can remember stuff that happened years ago.
China is already squatting in Philippines’ sovereign waters, and you think China won’t do anything in the future? Of course, you would not, because you are cheerleading your own team regardless of your own team being guilty of the same imperialism that you pretend to be against.
They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission.
Okay, and I think this will be resolved peacefully. This hardly makes China the biggest threat to the world.
Sure, as if being water-hosed by Chinese navy to prevent you from fishing is caused by oil supply restrictions!
No, but being unable to fuel vessels and trucks after the pumps run dry will cause systemic problems that everyone will feel. An energy crisis hurts all fishers in all of their territorial waters, and then on top of that hurts literally every single person in the country. It’s not just that there are going to be boats that can’t even go out to sea because they aren’t able to get fuel, there are going to be people that can’t do any of their jobs in any part of the country. This is the prelude to an economic collapse.
The US is the biggest threat to the world and everyone in the world knows it, including people in the Philippines.
And what does that have to do with China doing their own imperialism by water-hosing Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen well before the war, depriving fishermen of their livelihood? What makes you think China will not escalate from waterhosing when they are already sending warships?
I asked this to many of your “comrades”. Have you actually spoken to Filipinos what they think of China? Did you physically go to Vietnam or Philippines and asked them of their opinions?
I only ever defended China as not being as bad as the US. I clearly didn’t say China is flawless and immaculate - I literally said “China shouldn’t deprive fishermen of their livelihood” - and even if I think the conflict will be resolved peacefully (China doesn’t do war) it’s still bad. This is a local territorial dispute, though, and it’s simply not as big a threat to the world as the US.
Yet you seem to somehow believe China is worse than the US, which is absurd.
Kay
The US murdered over a million people in the Philippines during its turn at colonization after the Spanish.
China shouldn’t deprive fishermen of their livelihood, but since we’re comparing them to the US it’s clear which is worse.
Kay
Germany murdered many millions of people in France and Poland during its two “yay blood and iron; let’s conquer the world and get the word genocide invented” attempts.
Russia shouldn’t be waging a war of conquest on Ukraine, but since we’re comparing them to Germany, it’s clear which is worse
/s
Why the /s? What you’re saying is fundamentally correct
Except that Germany actually murdered many, many millions more in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia than it did in France.
Germany is a has-been country that basically just helps Israel commit genocide, but not really much else.
The US didn’t exactly ever stop killing millions of people. They just hop country to country, Philippines to Korea to Indonesia to Vietnam to Iraq, a million here and a million there, spreading death and destruction all around the world. Those are just the big ones, if we start including the tens and hundreds of thousands there’s Chile, Argentina, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Gaza, and on and on.
Remember, we’re talking about what country is the biggest threat to the world. It’s not China and it’s not Russia.
You can appreciate which event is more recent given this is a contemporary poll and the amount of propaganda the US would have fed the Phillipines since then.
But, this poll still shows that people in the Philippines still see the US as the greater threat? Despite China’s more recent spat in the South China Sea, despite the propaganda, the Philippines still sees the US as the greatest threat to the world. Japan is the only country that sees China as a threat, which mostly stems from imperial humiliation at China defeating Japanese occupation.
That doesn’t invalidate their surprise on the matter. There is a logical reasoning behind it.
It’s not logical, though, it actually reveals an illogical bias. Local disputes over fishing and territory simply aren’t as big a threat to the world as the warmongering empire that killed a million Filipinos and is currently plunging the world into an energy crisis.
Propoganda and recency bias are stronger than you believe.
That’s not what the survey shows. The survey shows that, actually, propaganda and recency bias aren’t enough. People can access news from around the world these days and they remember their nation’s history. If anything, my beliefs are vindicated.
Perhaps it’s that American idiocy is further reaching these days.
Though you miss the point that someone can logically assume that recent events would play more into people’s minds than the study shows.
But you’re missing the point of the survey, which literally shows that it doesn’t. It turns out, no, you can’t just assume that recent events play more into people’s minds. They’re not gold fish. They can remember stuff that happened years ago.
China is already squatting in Philippines’ sovereign waters, and you think China won’t do anything in the future? Of course, you would not, because you are cheerleading your own team regardless of your own team being guilty of the same imperialism that you pretend to be against.
Its only manifest destiny if its American; otherwise its lower quality outsourcing /s
I think this conflict will be resolved peacefully because neither country benefits from open conflict. China doesn’t really do war.
Besides, the US-caused energy crisis is going to do more to deprive Philippine fishermen of their livelihoods than China ever has.
They are squatting, with the Chinese warships within Philippine territory without permission.
Typical cope.
Sure, as if being water-hosed by Chinese navy to prevent you from fishing is caused by oil supply restrictions!
has not much to do with The Philippines per se , it’s mostly because of the US Navies ties with The Philippines
Okay, and I think this will be resolved peacefully. This hardly makes China the biggest threat to the world.
No, but being unable to fuel vessels and trucks after the pumps run dry will cause systemic problems that everyone will feel. An energy crisis hurts all fishers in all of their territorial waters, and then on top of that hurts literally every single person in the country. It’s not just that there are going to be boats that can’t even go out to sea because they aren’t able to get fuel, there are going to be people that can’t do any of their jobs in any part of the country. This is the prelude to an economic collapse.
The US is the biggest threat to the world and everyone in the world knows it, including people in the Philippines.
And what does that have to do with China doing their own imperialism by water-hosing Filipino and Vietnamese fishermen well before the war, depriving fishermen of their livelihood? What makes you think China will not escalate from waterhosing when they are already sending warships?
I asked this to many of your “comrades”. Have you actually spoken to Filipinos what they think of China? Did you physically go to Vietnam or Philippines and asked them of their opinions?
The OP is about Filipinos seeing the US as a bigger threat than China. They’re literally telling us that, in the survey.
You’re the one that seems intent on ignoring what they have to say, here.
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I only ever defended China as not being as bad as the US. I clearly didn’t say China is flawless and immaculate - I literally said “China shouldn’t deprive fishermen of their livelihood” - and even if I think the conflict will be resolved peacefully (China doesn’t do war) it’s still bad. This is a local territorial dispute, though, and it’s simply not as big a threat to the world as the US.
Yet you seem to somehow believe China is worse than the US, which is absurd.