Yeah well, drop site news came out with a report from the Israelis saying that the Biden administration didn’t pressure them once.
Would have just used their article but mods here say its banned because its hosted on substack.
What reasons did the mods give?
Continuing to give the genocider everything he wanted wasn’t going to get him to actually listen to anything you said.
Biden … Netanyahu … Saudi
What do people expect with this disgusting collection of genocidal sleaze?
I said the same thing about Egypt, Qatar, and Saudi negotiating a ceasefire and $50 billion dollar Gaza reconstruction plan as if any of those country governments would spend even a cent on the Palestinians.
Edit: which they did without representation from Gaza
Yes, Netenyahus arse was borderline bruised from the tongue “lashing” Biden gave him on a daily basis. And the dems shutting any progressive or muslim voice out of the party, and not allowing anyone of Palestinian descent into the convention was so brave of Biden. A profile of courage.
Thank God people voted against ‘Genocide Joe’! Those Palestinian kids must be so grateful!
Bibi stalled because he knew if Trump won he could cleanse both Gaza and the WB.
Which he is, in spite of all the ‘progressive rage’ that children mutter under their breath.
He “stalled” for fifteen months while we gave them money, bombs, and fighter jets? What was he stalling for exactly? Nothing has changed over there since the inauguration.
Protest votes did not meaningfully impact the election
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
It’s not like you’d listen anyway. That’s the Democratic way.
This person is doing exactly what that mother of the child who died of measles did and that’s find whatever scapegoat they possibly can to blame things on because the alternative means acknowledging that they’re a monster and that’s too uncomfortable.
With the exception that I was telling everyone to get vaccinated, that the anti-vaxers were wrong and were killing their kids.
The herd stupidity failed and all our kids died.
Bibi stalled because he knew if Trump won he could cleanse both Gaza and the WB.
Implying biden wasn’t also allowing that to happen?
I hope you are comforted by all the cheers of the Palestinian kids.
Mission Accomplished, well done.
You seem almost gleeful that these children are still being slaughtered because you feel it gives to something to rub other people’s faces in. You’re disgusting.
Yup, not like we literally spent months screaming at the morons telling everyone to stay home because of genocide Joe.
And destroyed the country and large parts of the world.
We lost, we can’t do anything, that’s it.
Meanwhile there are idiots who still don’t realize how completely they were had.
Meanwhile there are idiots who still don’t realize how completely they were had.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. You’re finally starting to wake up.
I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the sounds of millions of starving children.
You have let the inability of democrats to do anything effect you just the same.
“We lost. We can’t do anything, that’s it.”
You sound exactly like those lame-ass leaders of the democratic party. Why would anyone vote for someone who takes their ball and goes home when they lose?
The people want a party that fights for them - not one that begs for money and votes while doing nothing for their constituents and nothing for their country during times of crisis. Democrats are toast.
This is the stupidest argument.
The democrats don’t matter at all, you shouldn’t vote for the democrats.
You should vote to UTTERLY ANNIHILATE the GOP, completely.
You’re whining about the moderate parties while Hitler is taking 32% in the reichstag.
Which option didn’t have genocide continue?
There was none.
Dems rig their primaries, so any other presidential candidate had zero chance.
Obviously we were right to enable the option that was literally fascism.
Now at least the Palestinian kids won’t suffer alone.
Again, mission, fucking, accomplished.
Whats funny is to the dnc and Kamalas campaign also didn’t seem to care if trump won but everyone is just mad at people pointing out that the usa and Biden were fully in support of Israel genociding Palestinians.
Even now the response to Biden’s people saying yeah completely enabled them and didnt do anything to stop them is yelling about trump
Whats funny is to the dnc and Kamalas campaign also didn’t seem to care if trump won
I mean, if believing that drowns out the screams for you at night, sure.
I’m sure those kids are horrified at the decisions made by the DNC, that’s probably all they can think of.
I’m not sure I understand why you’re all just ignoring that Genocide Joe was an avid genocider too here. The OP’s point is that there was no party on the ballot that actually opposes genocide, unless you were going to vote Green of course.
Your cognitively-impaired genocider was just as bad as their cognitively-impaired genocider.
The dangers of trusting a Zionist. Genociding Bibi should never have been given the benefit of the doubt. And in the end, Bibi won by having his favorite outcome on 2024-11-05 realized.
The dangers of trusting a Zionist.
Are you not aware that genocide joe is a huge zionist? In fact the vast majority of zionists are christian. Likewise Saudi Arabia has always been closely allied with zionism. None of these creeps are trustable.
Bibi won by having his favorite outcome on 2024-11-05 realized.
I doubt Bibi cared much either way. I mean Trump likely was preferable to Harris, but even with Harris it’s not like he’d have faced real pressure to stop the genocide.
Benefit of the doubt?
Biden and his people had more than a year to figure it out during war crimes/genocide and all the decades before it.
They wanted this. They were merely occupied with the optics of it. Murdering brown people generally has bipartisan support in the US.
Sadly obvious to everyone but Biden
So glad they worked so hard in office to actually prevent the genocide
https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkrokvk2p
Agreed.
It always warms my heart to hear how hard it was for Democrats to actually wield power when they had it, especially when Trump is giving a master class on the possibilities. It reminds me of all those times they asked us to empathize with how hard it is to legislate, conveniently, whenever we asked them to do something about the widespread impoverishment of people and the increasing cost-prohibitive pricing of food staples.
They always, always lean on excuses.
Yeah when was the last time you heard the excuse that “we just have to keep arming Israel because of geopolitical alliances?” They sure dropped that one quickly before morphing into blaming individuals for not further supporting it at the ballot box. No criticism for the 15 months of this under Biden. No criticism of the actual fucking Democratic candidates who chose to support this in their campaigns leading up to their entirely predictable losses.
It’s just excuse and scapegoat after excuse and scapegoat while they let the world burn around them because it’s good for their polling numbers in the next election.
Headline aside, the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide, even suggesting the neighboring arab states secure the gaza strip temporarily.
The major quotes about genocide being the plan were by the Israeli military veteran and ambassador to the US Michael Herzog, not the US.
the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide,
Because there wasn’t an actual genocide in Gaza already? If they were trying to prevent a genocide they were failing miserably.
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group, according to Merriam Webster dictionary. Genocide is the murder of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group, with the aim of destroying that nation or group, according to Oxford.
The fact that we’re still talking about Palestine under Trump means it wasn’t eradicated under Biden. I’m sure the Israelis always planned for Genocide but I’m sure Biden was working to prevent it.
I’m sure the Israelis always planned for Genocide but I’m sure Biden was working to prevent it.
So the op is about how Biden was not doing anything to prevent it and how he was just letting them do whatever they wanted. Did you actually read any part of it?
Are you just arguing old talking points whenever you see people being critical of how Biden handled the situation?
I know this is a wordy response but you included a full fucking amnesty international article in your reply so if anything mine is much more concise.
The Amnesty International article your shared calls on USA, Germany, UK, and other key EU members to end shipments of arms to Israel. Full stop, that was never going to happen. To remove the largest strategic military position in the region is absolutely not on the table, whether we like it or not that is a fact. All of those nations, to some extent, heavily limited arms deals to Israel after the occupation began, which was good.
Hypothetically, if we did cut off all arms to Israel, then they would be surrounded by very angry adversaries that they have been fighting for almost a century. Israel would just become another slightly different genocide and you would be sitting there explaining it to the next generation the same way the old belligerent honkies are trying to explain it to us now.
The best possible outcome, in my opinion, would have been the USA removing Netanyahu from power by not acknowledging his authority after his previous removal for corruption and forcing a new election to be held in Israel.
The most realistic outcome would be propping up the Israelis, conditionally to the extent that they could lose some land to adversaries if they’re not following the rules, and also propping up Palestine starting with the rebuilding of their infrastructure and peacekeeping with foreign troops such that any attack on Palestinians could result in conflict with those nations.
I love you ignored the part of it being a genocide which is why I linked it.
And ignored the part of reading the article about how Biden refused to stop the genocide.
Now your argument is somehow rebuilding Palestinian land and doing peacekeeping, which again was something the us under Biden vetoed at the un
The US also proposed ceasefires to the UN which were also Vetoed by China.
Dude, you know you’ve lost the plot when you’re resorting to deflecting and whataboutism.
When you have to start your argument with a fucking Merriam Webster definition, you should realize that your argument is shit. (This is of course the royal “you”)
Clearly my good faith discussion was wasted on you and Gofer.
The fact that you can listen to Stromae means that not all people of Tutsi descent are dead. There is no such thing as the Rwandan genocide! I guess since there are still Jewish and Romani people, the Nazi Party were not complicit in genocide either. Clearly not. Jewish and Romani people exist to this day. Some even live in Poland! What genocide? \s
You are a deeply unserious person. There is no chance in hell that you are arguing in good faith. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.
1.9 Million People live in the Gaza Strip, that’s 7 digits. Large numbers of them were displaced but still remain in Gaza, somewhere from 5 to 6 digits dead or injured, that leaves 7 digits still in Gaza. The Israelis and Trump’s Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth are talking about pushing all of them permanently out of the region, future tense.
The Rwandan Genocide happened, the Gaza Genocide is currently happening. It did not occur under Biden, would not have occurred under Harris.
EDIT: rough morning, digit numbers fixed
It's been a genocide for over a year
- De-Gaza: A Year of Israel’s Genocide and the Collapse of World Order - Euro-Med Monitor Report see Chapter 2 and 3
Our first-hand observations of the medical and humanitarian catastrophe inflicted on Gaza are consistent with the descriptions provided by an increasing number of legal experts and organizations concluding that genocide is taking place in Gaza.
- Doctors Without Borders: Life in the death trap that is Gaza
It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and the restriction of power supplies. It analyses Israel’s intent through this pattern of conduct and statements by Israeli decision-makers. It concludes that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.
- Amnesty: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Revealed Through Evidence and Analysis Video and Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Report
On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.
The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.
So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.
More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.
An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.
I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document to the situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. I explain why I chose to use the term below. Israel’s campaign is ostensibly its reaction to the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7, 2023, in which war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed within the context of the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that can be dated back to 1917 or 1948 (or other dates). In all cases, historical grievances and atrocities do not justify additional atrocities in the present. Therefore, I consider Israel’s response to Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7 utterly disproportionate and criminal.
One Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win
Kamala Would Have Won With A Weapons Embargo
Let’s not pretend that Trump’s plan to forcibly remove all Palestinians from Gaza isn’t a revival of the same plan put forth by Biden behind closed doors.
The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The only obligation the US has, under the Leahy Law and International Law, is to cease weapons transfers to Israel for violating human rights and perpetrating crimes against humanity.
Biden is a self proclaimed Zionist, he absolutely supported this genocide, both materially, diplomatically, and ideologically.
It’s been an attempted Genocide since before the festival attack ever even happened, but POTUS Joe Biden tried, albeit poorly, to stop it from succeeding. Now, under the new US admin, it is all but absolutely certain to succeed.
1.9 Million People live in the Gaza Strip, that’s 10 digits. Large numbers of them were displaced but still remain in Gaza, somewhere from 6 to 7 digits dead or injured, that leaves 10 digits still in Gaza
Uh… What? 1.9 is 7 digits, of which there were conservatively estimated to be 6 digits of dead by mid-2024. By the most conservative estimate possible, more than 10% of Gazans were fucking dead by the time your dear Biden left office.
The Israelis and Trump’s Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth are talking about pushing all of them permanently out of the region, future tense.
Yeah Biden leaned on Egypt and Jordan to accept exactly the same thing also in mid-2024 and was told to go fuck himself. For now Israel is blocking out all aid, which is the exact same thing it did at the start of the war under Biden.
I thank you for correcting my zero count, I will do the same for you, 40,000 is only 5. It’s been a rough morning for me.
“Biden gimme more bombs and bullets to kill more people. Also bring over your army tp shoot down all drones and missiles Iran could send to us.”
[1] “Nope, fuck off.”
[2] “Sure honey. While we are it, can you also publicly humiliate me? I will also state how i am a great Zionism supporter and i will stay by your side unwaveringly”Biden actually withheld several shipments of large bombs that Israel paid for, and later Trump bragged about shipping them out.
The fact of the matter is the Biden admin never supported a single state solution or genocide while the Trump admin does and then some.
Your distrust of the Biden admin is exactly what Netanyahu wanted, and it succeeded beyond anybody’s wildest dreams.
Again, it was just optics. The US continued to deliver other bombs and Israel continued to massacre with them.
Also remember the entire “Aid pier” shenanigangs? All this alleged humanitarian tool ended up being used for was as a spearhead for a clandestine military operation hidden in aid trucks.
Reagan ended Israels attacks on Lebanon with a phone call. All Biden had to do was saying: “you dont get shit and we dont cover your ass unless ceasefire and full humanitarian access.”
Biden supported genocide. The genocide is committed with US weapons and he kept sending them. He even broke US laws to send them.
Look at actions not at words.
Also remember the entire “Aid pier” shenanigangs? All this alleged humanitarian tool ended up being used for was as a spearhead for a clandestine military operation hidden in aid trucks.
They do, but are saying it is an example of how Biden was trying to help gaza and Palestinians 😑🙃
No its literally biden doing his best to let it continue
https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkvojms2p
Further on
10/ ➤ He also revealed there were internal discussions in Washington about Biden giving a speech to pressure Israel politically, possibly triggering new elections there—but Biden backed off.
And
17/ 5. Biden Backed Israel Even After Netanyahu Publicly Undermined & Insulted Him
➤ Biden once told Netanyahu he was “full of shit,” and hung up the phone mid-call. But as Ambassador Tom Nides put it: “Biden saw [Netanyahu] as a manipulator, a magician… But he stood by him through the end.”
The fact that you can type all that and not see the truth of my words is astonishing. I don’t pretend the Biden admin approach was good, but he very clearly did not want a genocide.
If he very clearly didn’t want a genocide, wouldn’t he have taken action that would prevent it (or as much of it as reasonably possible) from continuing instead of just saying “You gotta stop it Jack!”?
They dont seem to accept “actions speak louder than words”
Which parts od ot do you think are positive for biden?
Which parts do you think show he was against the genocide?
He never once promoted or sought any Israel single state solution and was openly speaking with neighboring islamic states about ways to maintain Palestine in some meaningful way. He withheld large bomb shipments that Israel paid for, the intention being to keep them from being used on the raid of Rafah. Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him. The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the “empty gesture” that other commenters claim.
You all might think that amounts to nothing, but it’s a hell of a lot worse now that Biden is gone and Trump is in charge. I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.
He withheld 2000lb bombs but eagerly sent them everything else, even to the point of ignoring our own laws.
Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him.
And yet gave him everything he wanted and covered for Israel in the un
The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the “empty gesture” that other commenters claim.
That seemingly lasted only long enough to help do a military raid into gaza.
I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.
Agreed. Although notice it didnt do anything to stop Biden from working with such a piece of shit.
