• ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    Funny, for us pepper is on the table but it’s not second on the list. It’s salt, then olive oil, then lemon. And then pepper.

    So my guess would obviously be oil. Why the fuck would sugar be there.

    Also if this is about the ancient Mediterranean then pepper was actually long pepper which tastes like dirt and the third thing was likely Garum, which Internet pop history doesn’t shut up about.

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      6 hours ago

      I’ve got to disagree about long pepper, I bought some for some specific recipes and tried some ground up just on steak, tastes great

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      10 hours ago

      The classic settings have three shakers and two bottles. They were used for oil, vinegar, salt, pepper, and… something solid most likely. Here’s what they look like:

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        6 hours ago

        Lemon ≈ vinegar, okay, neat.

        If this was the house I grew up in the shakers may have been salt, black pepper (we called it spicy pepper), and allspice (which is called sweet pepper in Arabic).

        The problem here is that it just says “European” and I haven’t read what I certainly think the book the OOP mentions (A short history of nearly everything) in well over a decade so I have no context for where this area might be. Or when that area might be. Eastern Europe in the mid 1800s? I’d assume paprika. Andalusian Iberia at its peak? I’d assume something completely different.

        If I had a third shaker it would probably contain dried mint for salads.

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          4 hours ago

          It’s a different book. I’m pretty sure it’s called At Home. It’s a much more recent book than A Short History Of Nearly Everything.

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    1 day ago

    It is funny and in Poland we still laugh bout it but the “everyone can see what horse looks like” was just the beginning of a very long definition. It meant “I’m not going to describe what a horse looks like. Just look out a window and you will see one”.

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    1 day ago

    Regarding the milk thing, I mean, the internet tells me we slaughter 900,000 cows per day. If some of their bones end up in landfills, then those would probably be found by archeologists first and foremost.

    Although, then they might also think that cows were the dominant species and they were milking us.

    Well, except they might think chickens were the dominant species, since 200 million of them get slaughtered per day.
    Which brings us to the age-old question: Who would win a fight? 1 cow or 222 chickens?

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      23 hours ago

      That’s a lot of calcium to just throw away. I also know that bones are used in the production of gelatin. Nothing in today’s capitalist world totally goes to waste, if money can be made, of course.

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        18 hours ago

        Yeah, I was wondering, if any would even end up in landfills. Bone meal is probably the biggest use, which is a fertilizer.

        And even if you do just want to get rid of the bones, typically trash gets burned before it goes into landfill. And I believe, bones largely burn up. (I decided against looking that up. 😅).
        At least, the burnt bones would presumably be unrecognizable to archeologists…

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    2 days ago

    How are they not talking about how apparenly in poland dragons were sufficiently ubiquitous that the only suggestion was to just try your best if one turns up

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    1 day ago

    With the salt, pepper, and third shaker thing, I like to believe there was just no widespread agreement on what the third default seasoning was, so they left it up to discretion.

    You wanna put some paprika in there, go for it. You’d rather have ground parmesan, be our guest. Maybe some coffee, or straight cocaine. It’s your shaker.

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        1 day ago

        Etcetera was the name of a ubiquitous spice used in most households, that has now gone extinct; like Silphium. Since it was always placed third on the table next to salt and pepper, it was synonymous with a third or more listed option, then shortened for brevity: e.g. a, b, etc /s