Shouts of “he should be shot” could be heard multiple times Thursday night at the Republican midterm convention as Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was criticizing prominent Democratic politicians by name.
It really isn’t. Your comparing mainstream members to randoms on the Internet. At best you’re being disengenous, if not outright lying to make a point.
Any idiot can say whatever dumb shit they want on the internet (as evidenced by the conversation above), but you can’t honestly say both sides are advocating for this at the party level.
Well, not without being a liar, anyway. That never stops the right and idiot centrists from crying BoTh SiDeS to things that are demonstratably coming from the right primarily.
Trump’s hate speech and policies have killed countless people.
Have you noticed your sources tend to be “so-and-so apologizes, removes offending remark”? Do we get that same level of self-awareness from the right?
Did you even read that Reddit post?
Frequently in political discussions, someone will reject a criticism of republicans by saying that democrats aren’t perfect either. I agree they aren’t perfect and should be criticsed but they are a much less flawed choice for government for most people than republicans and it’s important to make this point. Pretending otherwise can be a lazy attempt at appearing mature by making a false equivalence between both sides or apathy that justifies not paying closer attention to politics because ‘they [politicians] are all the same’. This attitude led to Trump’s election because people thought both sides are the same (i.e. using private emails was equivalent to a decades long history of derogatory treatment of women because ‘they’re both awful’).
It’s critical of you.
Let’s check some comments:
The GOP actually executed a sophisticated funding project to capture state houses—and thus, redistricting authority—prior to the 2010 census redistricting. That action, by a major political party is an attempt to manipulate the ‘power’ of American citizens votes according to their party’s current interests. That is fundamentally undemocratic, full stop. This is not a case of one political party simply having the option to do a thing while the other did not.
There tend to be more indictments of federal officials under Republican administrations, and almost all of the major political scandals through the last several decades were executed under Republicans (Watergate, Iran-Contra, Iraq and Afghani wars). In fact, the only major scandal under a Democrat since Nixon was the Lewinsky scandal, which was widely considered to be political posturing by Republicans, which is why they lost Congressional seats in the 1998 midterm. This is a 40-year pattern.
It’s not that “Republicans unfairly criticized Obama for taking vacations and now Democrats are unfairly criticizing Trump for taking vacations.” It’s that Republican criticisms and Trump personally were objectively out of line and now Trump has taken more vacations than Obama after specifically criticizing Obama for that. AFAIK Obama hasn’t said a word about Trump’s vacations, and the elected officials in the Democratic Party are not harping on it nearly to the extent that Republicans did.
That the Senate in the Trump years would set out to upend the American health-care system largely in secret was a dramatic and genuinely shocking example of how the decay of norms is not an abstract problem. It threatens the most basic commitments of our democracy.
Stop defending nazis, dumb fuck. We see through your stupid bullshit.
I’m copying from another comment so I don’t have to type it again:
“The politics here are just as real as they are there. What do you think emboldened conservative leaders to spout shit like this in the first place? It’s the fact that their base supports it, and the calls for violence here on Lemmy are no different, except that we’re sympathetic to the reasons.”
Nope, you’re conflating party level advocacy with randos on the internet, and it’s a bullshit comparison. And this advocacy has come from the party leadership for decades.
One party is OPENLY KIRKING PEOPLE IN THE STREET and there’s no pushback at the party level on one side, but plenty on the other.
Your argument is the most hollow both sides bullshit.
Ok bud, enjoy that hypocrisy and moral superiority, and tell yourself you were right all along as you continue to contribute to burning everything down.
I will, as long as my enemy burns with it. Conservatives have already sentenced our planet to death. I will do everything in my power to make it hurt conservatives as much as possible. We are enemies, just as you insist. Get off our planet.
All i know is: If they’re coming at me with guns, I’m fighting back with guns. I don’t have to feel guilty because they started it and I don’t have to die to “preserve civility and norms”.
It really isn’t. Your comparing mainstream members to randoms on the Internet. At best you’re being disengenous, if not outright lying to make a point.
Any idiot can say whatever dumb shit they want on the internet (as evidenced by the conversation above), but you can’t honestly say both sides are advocating for this at the party level.
Well, not without being a liar, anyway. That never stops the right and idiot centrists from crying BoTh SiDeS to things that are demonstratably coming from the right primarily.
They are you just choose not to see it.
Source?
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/senator-who-hoped-for-trump-assassination-in-post-apologizes/
https://www.cpr.org/2024/07/14/colorado-lawmakers-trump-assassination-reaction-rhetoric/
https://www.westernjournal.com/dem-committee-members-delete-gross-tweet-mocking-poor-americans-got/
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/7acrdy/cmv_the_belief_that_both_us_parties_are_equally/
https://scalise.house.gov/press-releases/Scalise-on-Violent-Democrat-Rhetoric%3A-Enough-is-Enough
That last one is my favorite it talks about dog whistles on the democratic side.
My point has been consistent. Both sides suck both parties suck
Nazis and genociders suck. Fuck you for defending them, stupid-ass nazi.
I’m confused I provided sources? That’s what you wanted?
“Wahhh, Trump is being targeted.”
Wish they hadn’t missed. He’s a wannabe Hitler.
Fuck you and your false equivalences.
Ah so I provided sources and you decided to still be biased. Good job.
Trump’s hate speech and policies have killed countless people.
Have you noticed your sources tend to be “so-and-so apologizes, removes offending remark”? Do we get that same level of self-awareness from the right?
Did you even read that Reddit post?
It’s critical of you.
Let’s check some comments:
Stop defending nazis, dumb fuck. We see through your stupid bullshit.
What Democratic politician has called for killing Republicans?
Just gonna repeat the first comment I made in this thread, it’s still just as accurate:
Wow, you’ve really convinced me with all of the sources for your totally real and not baseless claim!
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I’m copying from another comment so I don’t have to type it again:
“The politics here are just as real as they are there. What do you think emboldened conservative leaders to spout shit like this in the first place? It’s the fact that their base supports it, and the calls for violence here on Lemmy are no different, except that we’re sympathetic to the reasons.”
Nope, you’re conflating party level advocacy with randos on the internet, and it’s a bullshit comparison. And this advocacy has come from the party leadership for decades.
One party is OPENLY KIRKING PEOPLE IN THE STREET and there’s no pushback at the party level on one side, but plenty on the other.
Your argument is the most hollow both sides bullshit.
Ok bud, enjoy that hypocrisy and moral superiority, and tell yourself you were right all along as you continue to contribute to burning everything down.
Yeah, I’m a hypocrite for not letting you peddle bullshit about both parties advocating for violence at the party level, which is the original point.
Again, I’m not letting you put words in my mouth. If you want to have that argument with someone, go for it.
Why would I need to put words in your mouth when you openly blame victims for wanting to defend themselves against random violence from bigots.
No one put those nazi lies in your mouth. You brought those from home. Stop breathing and start doing the right thing by getting off our planet.
I will, as long as my enemy burns with it. Conservatives have already sentenced our planet to death. I will do everything in my power to make it hurt conservatives as much as possible. We are enemies, just as you insist. Get off our planet.
All i know is: If they’re coming at me with guns, I’m fighting back with guns. I don’t have to feel guilty because they started it and I don’t have to die to “preserve civility and norms”.
Said everyone on all sides to justify their violence.
Can the idea that one side isn’t lying possibly penetrate your thick skull?
How did the conflict start?
Holy shit you suck.
You are a liar and you defend nazis, making you a nazi. Get off our planet.