• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    Always enough leftitst to blame election losses on, never enough to force negotiation. We see how it is. Demanding our vote? Compromise with us.

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      4 days ago

      It’s not up to them whether we can force negotiations lol. That’s what it means to force them.

      And yeah blaming losses on leftists is stupid because there truly aren’t that many of us. I haven’t found good polling but from what I can deduce it’s in the single digits percentage-wise.

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        Someone will always highlight recent elections with incredibly thin margins, though. E.g. people who attribute Trump winning in 2016 to disappointed Bernie voters that didn’t show up to vote for Hillary.

        But that also ignores just how broken the US electoral system is anyways, where it doesn’t matter how many more votes you have if they still aren’t distributed correctly.

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          4 days ago

          Yeah there are multiple reasons this breaks down but fundamentally it is the responsibility of leaders to convince voters to vote for them. If they fail to do so that’s on them, not the voters.

          Also, in tight elections there are always a large number of possible constituencies that could swing the election. It does not follow that they’re individually responsible for the outcome.

          Especially, since, y’know, as a leftist who typically does vote for democrats it’s not as if I personally control what other leftists do.

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      4 days ago

      A blood clot the size of a pinhead can cause a heart attack.

      Something can be tiny and still mess things up.

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          Yeah, but if someone is staring at a machine gun, the clots kind of get ignored.

          And if the clots kill the person first, that really doesn’t stop the gun man, does it?