John Fetterman was a bait and switch. We haven’t had a chance to vote for him since his stroke and ideology change.
Susan Collins is a registered Republican.
Yeah I was wondering about that. For reference, here’s the demon’s bio
A conservative democrat is a democrat in name only.
The Democrat party is both conservative and right wing, and it continuously shifts further in those directions as a result of being the only party to give concessions to other side as a method of “meeting in the middle”. This also allows the ultra far right party to keep shifting further and further right because in order to have controlled opposition there must be some small differences.
Most democrats, especially the leadership, are conservative. The few who aren’t are outliers.
Antizionism vs antisemitism.
A favorite of mine
My favorite thing about the diagram is the layout. The liberals are on the right and the leftists are neither right or left.
You Leftists sure are a contentious people.
YOU SIR HAVE JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE
Oh that’s good
Yeah this has definitely happened to me a few times
Lemmy has proven to me that tankies have more in common with right wingers than liberals.
Tankies are the ideological opposite but intellectual equivalent of libertarians, and it says a lot about society that anyone subscribes to either after high school.
USA libertarians, correct? Because I constitute as libertarian in not wanting many if any rulers above the common people. Just that I’m also left and don’t have a weird fascination with changing age of consent laws like right wing libertarians do.
Early twentieth century anarchists often described themselves as libertarians. If that’s what you mean, we can work together.
US libertarians believe in a state that enforces private property laws but does nothing for the general welfare, basically gangsterism.
That’s what I mean, not the commonly viewed now Libertarian party in the USA. Freedoms and the only thing government should do is ensure those freedoms from bad actors until we no longer need such.
That means you’re definitely not as smart as you think you are!
Yeah that’s the thing about authoritarians; they don’t have a problem with the boot, they just want it to be on the other foot. No better. Different axis, but the political compass looks more like a triangle than a square to me.
No better
Ehh… Slightly better
Oh noooo authoritarians who use that power to build affordable housing and transportation infrastructure, break up monopolies and capitalist machinations which gouge people trying to pay for food and healthcare. No please noooooooo. Let’s keep fighting this because it’s no different from pedophile billionaires destroying the planet. /s
The authoritarians don’t do that, we do. You think Stalin was out there laying track?
He was calling for the deaths of the delivery driver whose load broke because of poor manufacturing quality.
What?
It’s the shit rolls down principle. The plant manager may have tuned the machine for say panes of glass to be 1mm thinner to stretch out supply and meet demand. This made it more fragile. While in transport the glass breaks, they blame the driver and send him to the gulag instead of the manager. Based on laws and expectations Stalin would have them summarily executed because he would blame the driver as well.
White guy in a suit, how fitting, lol.
Uh-oh we’ve summoned them
Thanks for proving their point too.
It’s us or MAGA. Time to make a choice.
Well that’s the falsest dichotomy I’ve seen in awhile.
That would mean you have a plan on how to win general elections without us.
Who’s both siding now?
Yeah, they’re so much better for the working man. And they’re doing so well at exporting their culture.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/byd-hungary-china-labour-watch-9.7154249
Ah yes, Hungary, the leftist capital of China, lmao.
“Ah, finally free from the tyranny of capitalism!” – the tankie says, barely audible over the sounds of a random minority group being mulched in the background
Uhhuh. Capitalism is evil. Wait… Why’s it evil again? Right; because of the suffering and harm it causes, and siphons the power from many into the hands of a few. And the authoritarian “left” is better because… Trains. Or something. But, come to thinks of it… You know, I heard Germany had a pretty decent rail system too. So perhaps that isn’t the bar by which we should measure success as a society.
I didn’t even say get rid of capitalism. I said “break up monopolies and capitalist machinations”.
That’s funny, I had the opposite experience. When Israel started doing it’s genocide, all the liberals on here were defending it, while the tankies were on the right side of history right from the start.
When Israel started doing it’s genocide, all the liberals on here were defending it
Where? Is there one example? I never saw one.
I saw a bunch of people hoping trump won over it though. Which made less than no sense.
You’ve never seen liberals screaming about voting for Biden or Kamala prior to the election on here? I couldn’t open the website without seeing it. That’s defense of the genocide, lol.
Voting for a candidate because they are better than the other guy is not an enforcement of all their policies, and pretending it is is a psyop for the opposition.
No, it’s voters accepting garbage politicians and policies.
When did that happen? The closest was people pointing out, correctly, that if you actually cared about Israel’s actions it was obvious that Trump would be worse. That’s not defending genocide, that’s trying to prevent people from making stupid decisions for noble reasons.
When Russia started their genocide in Ukraine those same tankies cheered it though.
I’m sorry, the invasion of Ukraine is a terrible thing, and definitely illegal, but it is not a genocide. Not a single human rights organization or anything like the ICJ, UN, ICC is calling it a genocide.
Russia is currently not in the position to carry out a genocide, unlike Israel, so technically that can be correct. However, not everything is in the actions, something is in the intent as well (trying to commit a crime and failing can still be illegal and punishable), and Russia has made its heinous plans quite clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukraine
However, not everything is in the actions
That is absolutely correct. Genocide, however, is not one of those things. A significant portion of the definition of genocide consists of actions. So when you say someone is committing a genocide, you’re saying they’re doing some specific stuff with some very specific intentions. One of the two is not enough. You need both.
That’s true. Shooting someone but missing is murderous, but not a murder, and trying to commit a genocide is genocidal but not a genocide.
Youre right I don’t think it’s correct at all to call it a genocide. I think they’re just hypersensitive to the minimizing language tankies use a lot, where a lot of historians said “the uyghur genocide” and tankies say “uhm technically there was no mention of genocide from this international rights body so that’s an overreaction.” The implication being that sure it’s not good what’s happening to them, but it’s not THAT bad.
Tankies do a similar thing with Ukraine where they say “they’re just taking back some of the land they rightfully control,” or some other minimization.
No when you kidnap children, strip them of their citizenship and forcibly adopt them out that’s genocide.
Technically that’s ethnic cleansing.
Thank you for proving my point.
Ukraine is a genocide. ICJ is trying a case about that very fact.
The ICJ is hearing counterclaims that Ukraine is committing genocide. So by your standards, Ukraine is committing genocide too. That doesn’t hold up to my standards, so I don’t believe Ukraine is committing genocide (or Russia for that matter).
I only brought up the ICJ because you mentioned it but I don’t need anything besides my eyes to see the truth of the genocide that’s happening.
Funny, Reddit has proven to me liberals prefer MAGA over leftists.
Americans think wanting gun control and wanting all minorities dead imprisoned or deported are equally bad.
I’d ask you for an example but we both know you wouldn’t be able to provide one.
A vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries wasn’t a vote against Trump it was a vote against leftists and a dice roll against Trump.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thanks for proving mine.
You went back six years to try to prove your point.
Yeah it was totally that and not because Biden, as former VP for a popular President, got credibility across the political spectrum as a safe choice after four years of President TMZ and All Those Rapes.
And also because leftists are a useless political bloc.
That would mean Joe Biden won without them in the 2020 general election. Is that actually what you believe? Because that would mean yet another political bloc abandoned the Democratic candidate in the 2024 general election.
When a political party is bleeding voters like this it’s a problem with the party. If you support the party digging in their heels while this is happening you are part of the problem.
Useless to whom? Trump won his first term in part due to online sowing of voting apathy in those likely to be left of center as we saw in the Cambridge Analytica scandal. The online left will also push Kremlin talking points. If you’re MAGA or Putin, the online left is very useful.
Oh ho! Now you’ve done it! They’re totally double extra not gonna vote for your candidate now!
They weren’t anyway but now . . . You just pissed off the least powerful non-voters in the electorate! Liberal!
centrists get stuff done, right? Like that genocide they funded under Bidens term. Be proud!
They also did a bang up job holding trump accountable for his insurrection and destroying republicans with the Epsten files. Remember that? so much winning. So much gotten done.
And then you go claim leftists get nothing done. What a frickin joke.
You’re almost there. What made Joe Biden the “safe choice”?
What’s crazy is you think this makes you clever.
It doesn’t. It just shows you’re unreasonable and incapable of understanding context or nuance. In other words, you’re either literally 15 or you’re mentally 15.
Because he likes vanilla ice cream. You really can’t go wrong with vanilla.
BANG
I’m sorry, did I break your concentration?
Susan Collins is a Republican
murowski of alaska is the same thing on the opposite side of the country. thier there to pretend “republicans are not all the same”, they make deals behind doors with the rest of gop who will vote for an against any bills.
tomato/Tomato.
Pedophiles don’t get a seat at the table.
Susan Collins Democrat? The fuck?
I think he would have been more clear on his intention if he used “and” instead of “/” in separating the two
I’m still mad at Kathy hochul over the right to repair bs. What a spineless capitalist.
shes looking for a big payout after her term, giving datacenter approval, and suspiciously working with trump prior to the election.
Ah another .world thread wherein the neolibs of .world try to paint anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan as a tankie.
I hate neoliberals as much as reactionaries at this point. And tankies can join the three of them.
When we’re roasting israelis and a nazi chimes in.
Me, roasting a tankie, when a Republican chimes in
Roasting a tankie when a liberal chimes in 🤮
Roasting a tankie when a tankie chimes in 💀
Roasting a chime when an archeofuturist feudalises in (✌ﾟ∀ﾟ)👉
ITT: People admit to having a common cause with the far right in a time when the far right hold many governments and all mainstream social media. Yeah you sure owned those tankies and lumpen progressives lol
