• Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    People on this platform want to be victims so bad. There’s more posts about people complaining about other people complaining about them then there actually is.

  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 days ago

    Liberals thinking they’re part of the left because reactionaries hate them. Surprise, I don’t like them either just for different reasons?

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    15 days ago

    I’d wager most leftists were liberals before becoming leftists.

    So this may convert some new brethren!
    Welcome aboard! Fill this glass bottle with gasoline and pass it on.

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      I’d wager most leftists were liberals before becoming leftists.

      Well, every person born in the west (and most other parts of the world these days) gets drenched in either liberal and/or fascist ideology (or, more usually, a combination of both) from birth… so that’s not exactly a risky wager on your part.

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          16 days ago

          Is this even in question? Anarchism quite clearly fits within the sphere of libertarian ideas.

          The weird part is thinking that’s a bad thing or somehow incompatible with leftism.

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          • French anarcho-communists invent the synonym “libertarian”
          • US fascists locally co-opt the word to obfuscate the inseparable nature of capital and state
          • Person on explicitly leftist forums vibe checks that by “anachist” you didn’t mean “libertarian”

          I’m tired, boss 😂

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          …what kind of definition of libertarian do you have, that anarchists aren’t included in it?

          Edit: There are non-leftist anarchists, like the whole post-left thing, but I have a feeling that’s not what you mean

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          14 days ago

          Anarchist is considered libertarian left, while what we typically call Libertarian is libertarian right. Yes, Anarchist is libertarian, but with an emphasis on the welfare of people, while libertarian right is usually about the freedom of businesses to exploit the people.

        • алсааас [she/her]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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          15 days ago

          I’m not even from the USA lol, literally from Europe.

          The EU is a union of financial capital and a bastion of it’s own reactionary neo-colonialism and imperialism…

          Also you don’t sound like a socialist TBH

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            Hearing the word “reactionary” from a self-proclaimed leftist is a red flag, because it’s used the same way right-wingers use “woke”. Basically most can’t define it without looking it up, or explain how it applies to what they’re critiquing.

  • Worstdriver@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Okay, please educate me…

    Aren’t liberals left wing? As in, to the left of the political center? In Canada our Liberal government is considered to be center left. Just how much is debatable, but left.

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      14 days ago

      (neo)liberalism is the political center (for all of the west, atleast for now but it stands on shaky legs), center left is for example social democracy and center right would be christian democracy.

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        14 days ago

        Well damn. I’ll look into this further later today when I’m not at work, but I honestly believed that liberals were center left with Tory conservatives being center right.

        If you have any links to informative articles I’d appreciate them. Never too old to learn things.

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      Depends on who you ask really. According to the classical definition leftism begins at anti-capitalism. According to the mainstream, the left begins at government social programs. (srry if i made any typos)