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Sauce: https://www.jstor.org/stable/48812575
This study builds on decades of work that makes less and less sense every minute of the digital age. Each year we’re further from a semi-homogenous group listening to Casey Kasem’s Top 40 (or whatever). Most people have a fairly clear, shared concept of 60s/70s/80s/90s music, but ask ten people about the 10s/20s and you’ll probably get eleven different answers.
In addition to changing mass listening habits, the digital age untethers us from time and wildly diversifies “new” music. You can hop on Youtube/Spotify/etc and listen to the Glenn Miller Orchesta as easily as the newest Drake singles, which with radio/MTV/etc was historically not the case. Those platforms also have allowed a world of music diversity and access that completely changes the paradigm. For example, some of the best “80s Music” in existence was released in the past few years.
The fuck? Fontaines DC, Tyler Childers, Janelle Monae, Leon Bridges, I have never stopped finding new music I love. This graph makes no sense. Modern music is so good. Old music is so good. I do not have a preference for any particular time period when it comes to enjoying music.
Uh it’s not an objective scale. This is the result of a survey
Yeah, i’m currently listening to my 8yo’s explicite R&B tastes and perfectly happy with it. It rages in the same say my 90’s stuff raged.
Iḿ from 90s and like mostly 60s/70s. psychedelic & prog rock
And I’m over here mostly listening to music from other countries and loving it.
Sometimes it really is that the music in the U.S. isn’t as good as it used to be.
It’s just that the good stuff is getting drowned out by the garbage corporations are pushing on us. There’s plenty of good music being made in the USA if you dig for it.
I like most types of electronica. Trance, techno, house, bounce, phonk, and even some dubstep. I still find new songs on youtube that I enjoy, even in my 40’s. Growing up my dad listened to a lot of psychedelic rock. I don’t really listen to rock anymore but I do recognize a lot of rock artists like dick dale, iron butterfly, and many others who created the psychedelic sound that progressed into techno and trance. I still hear a hint of miserlou in a lot of modern electronica it has a very recognizable guitar riff.
And yes Dick Dale was a surf guitarist, but his experimental creativity was a departure from what came before him. I consider him the grandpa of the big psychedelic rock artists who came after him. Many big psychedelic rock artists claimed dale as an inspiration.
Dick Dale is a legend a lot of great musicians owe something to. Most (though not all) modern surf, some of which is fucking great, follows in his footsteps while also borrowing from psych rock and other genres.
Always give Dick his due, he is the king after all.
Edit: at the same time, it’d be a mistake to ignore the influence of The Ventures as well.
Edit edit: Since this has lead me to fire up my ‘face melting surf’ playlist again, I’ll take the opportunity to give a shout out for my aquaintence-of-an-acquaintence’s weekly radio show Storm Surge of Reverb.
But then why are gen alpha and gen z listening to music I grew up with. It is so weird. I know its tiktok but still weird that they listen to the same music.
Yes, it’s Tik Tok. And it’s music older than I am sometimes. But mine listen to everything, like I do. I took the youngest to see Inhaler and also to see Young the Giant. Taking my husband to see Cannons, and also got him into country music, he used to hate it but if you turn off the commercial radio and just find the good stuff it is still being made.
The 2 bands both my older set of kids (millennials) and my younger set (GenZ) wanted to see when they were middle school age were Panic at the Disco and the My Chemical Romance, I always thought that was funny. Like it’s middle schooler music, I think I would have loved it too.
Time is a very good filter of what’s worthy and what’s not. You’re living now and you’re witnessing good stuff, but you’re also witnessing bullshit before it’s had the chance of being forgotten. If you look back 40-50-60 years, will you think of The Beatles, ABBA, Freddie Mercury, Jimi Hendrix, or will you think of someone who maybe released a couple of songs or an album and dropped out of existence? Yes, I thought so.
What, you mean you don’t still rock out to the Newbeats?
Good and bad music exist since the existence of music. The problem with bad music began from the music industry massified it with criteria more commercial than artistic, this is why good music did not cease to exist, but you have to look for it more than before. Whether you like it or not depends only on personal taste, not on type or style.
hint: your emotions are s function of hormonal activity. music feeds your emotions in such a way that your hormones are run in a feedback loop that tweaks your emotions to higher levels. as you age, your hormonal activity lessens, so thoe feedback loops are less effective and you lose interest
Do you have a source on this? Music playing a role in hormonal feedback loops sounds sus to me and if it’s not I’d love to read more into this.
not really. i just go by personal, i.e., anecdotal experience.
In other words, you lied about the scientific basis of your comment?
This take is a Rick Sanchez type beat
There’s been great music forever, there will continue to be great music forever.
The hard part is finding it.
So basically we all realize that music is a pointless waste of time once we get a job but sunk cost fallacy keeps us “enjoying” the same shit for a while
That is so far from the point of this graph it’s in another universe.
It’s not only a bad take but an incorrect reading of the graph lol
My music taste is like the inverse of this graph.
There was a period in my life where I didnt have time to listen to new music and I thought I could get by on Metallica, maiden, misfits, and (at the time) my favorite band, Fear factory. I distinctly remember telling people, I’ll listen to this til the end of my days, I don’t need more.
Then covid happened and I was stuck at home, no longer interrupted by random work or life stuff when I picked what music I put on for hours, and it got stale (No shit). And I started to listen to so much more.
Now my wife and I go to multiple shows a week, hearing all the latest and coolest shit from our local scene (SF); we tell all of our friends: $BAND is coming in 6 months, buy your tickets now, it’ll sell out. Or: free show on Saturday, want to come?
We are on friendly terms with members from multiple local bands, we go to album release shows, we get signed merch just by being chatty/friendly, we are helping bands, promoters/venues book with each other by putting them in touch.
Honestly it’s pretty incredible. When someone says “there’s no good music these days” or “rock/metal is dead” i just ask them… “Well what are you into? I can recommend something”. Because they’re so wrong…And if thry see what I see, they’d never say that in the first place
I was a teen when Limp Bizkit was the thing for me and it’s pretty sad that no other band has that sound yet. Especially the one of the less known tracks. I’m not a hardcore metal guy, so I look for guitar work with melodies. Any recommendations?
Re: the Limp Bizkit bit, how do you feel about this? https://youtu.be/qI7SAPzPVQg
I have to say, I’m not very good with specific descriptors like that, moreso (sub)genres or “this band sounds like that/these band(s)”.
I agree there’s not a lot that sounds quite like Limp Bizkit, not that I’m familiar with anyway.
When you say “guitar work with melodies”, what first comes to my mind is Iron Maiden. My instinct was to go to my concert calendar and see what is coming up that might fit the bill to give you a rec, and I found “The Lord Weird Slough Feg” (sometimes just “Slough Feg” these days) is in a couple weeks. One track I remember loving by them is “Tiger! Tiger!”. Their whole vibe reminds me of a Heavy Metal 2000 (the movie).
Give that a shot, hopefully I’m not too far off the mark!
(edit: and if that tickles your fancy, check out “Burst into Flames” by Haunt; “Time to Die” by Satan)
This may be true for casual listeners but it fails miserably for people who are “into music”.
i’m not. it definitely applies to me. and i’m guessing it would for the majority of the public, too.
That could easily be extended to other interest areas;
The average person may exclusively eat local, contemporary foods (ie whatever everyone else in their community eats), while “foodies” go out of their way to find new and interesting flavors.
For many people, fashion is, “whatever looks kinda like what everyone else is wearing.” For “fashionistas”, there’s a whole language around clothing choices.
But it’s better to share some actual joyful experiences.
I recently started listening to “Angine de Poitrine”. They’re a modern band that just released a new album and still plays live concerts. According to the OP chart, they’re 15 years too new for me.
For some old stuff, check out Hillery Hahn. I keep going back to her Bach sonatas and he lived in the 15th and 16th centuries.
Then there are crazy fusion versions. I recently found Ben Comeau’s gem “Donald Trump is a Wanker”. He took the bassline of “Seven Nation Army”, gave it a choral voice, and transcribed it to a fugue format. To paraphrase an other contemporary artist; that shit is bananas.
“How people who only ever listen to the music that’s played on the radio feel about music”
