• DeckPacker@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      Alright, then let me explain: There is no such thing as a communist state. Communism, as defined by Marx is a stateless classless society.

      It was also not socialist, because the workers did not have any meaningful control over the state, which controlled the means of production. Ergo, the workers didn’t control the means of production and the Soviet Union can much better be described as state capitalism. It was also fascist.

      Championing the Soviet Union as a “bull-work of communism” is also falling for American propaganda, because the US loves to portray the cold war as a struggle between capitalism and communism, which capitalism won.

      To be truly empowered as leftist, we need to reject their false definitions and actually try to figure out the truth.

      • Matty Roses@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        It was also fascist.

        No, it wasn’t.

        You don’t have to like the USSR, but fascism has a particular meaning - and the difference between even the Soviets and fascism was well defined by Mussolini, among others.

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        4 days ago

        It was also fascist.

        LOL
        you certainly didn’t fall for American propaganda.
        IDK what the people using the idiotic term ‘leftists’ to describe themselves mean by it, but they usually aren’t left.
        I think you’re far from figuring out the truth.

        • DeckPacker@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          You are not even gonna engage with the rest of the argument? I think that was the much more important part.

          • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            4 days ago

            There are plenty of ML’s who would gladly and thoroughly debunk your other claims with plenty sources and evidence (as I hope they do).
            As it’s a good thing to educate people.
            But I just pointed to the most staggeringly ridiculous one showing you’re pretty far gone.
            You need a lot of work and studying.
            Too early in the day and too hot, I have other work to do.