going to get on my soapbox about X for a moment for two things
people who say ātwitter is the only time iāll deadname somethingā, like itās a statement that fucking matters at anyone at all, when i donāt want deadnaming to EVER be something weāre treating as OK
calling X ātwitterā is just cope for people who canāt move off the fucking app and want to pretend like musk didnāt successfully take it over, ruin it, and turn it into a nazi child porn site. call it the shit garbage app that it is, the thing you liked called ātwitterā is dead
not directed at anyone in particular or you, OP, just wanted to get this off my chest
If a trans person says or does something morally wrong I do not ever attempt to āpunishā them with deadnaming or misgendering. However, I consider Twitter.com neither transgender nor person. Iām not causing any harm whatsoever. Sorry to offend you, but Elon Musk didnāt invent anything, āXā is just him buying Twitter and loading it up with Nazi Pedophiles., and to further twist the knife, he didnāt invent electric cars, he didnāt perfect space travel, he hasnāt āsolved trafficā, heās not even earned his own video game achievements.
i feel like weāre in agreement, except for the conclusion we arrived at about it
i just donāt like it when people act like saying (literally) āi will deadname twitterā will hurt twitter more than the trans people who might have actually been deadnamed. i think itās a waste to trigger them to act like calling x ātwitterā is a slur or smth
I mean thatās only true for people who actually see it as deadnaming, which it isnāt. As I said before the point isnāt actually āDeadnaming is okay in this instanceā but āThis app is literally just Twitter.ā Elon and supporters have called that deadnaming as some sort of gotcha and nobody argues that it isnāt because itās not like heās actually opposing deadnaming he dislikes the observation that he hasnāt built anything.
okay, sure, but i am a trans person and i have independently concluded that i donāt think itās cool. sure āitās only deadnaming if you think itās literally is the thing weāre calling itā, but the human brain doesnāt work like that; if someone has a strong enough response to it (e.g. they suffered trauma from being deadnamed), then theyāre going to have that response before they go āoh actually they donāt mean it because itās directed at a corpā. i donāt think ādunking on elon musk, who has plenty of other shit to dunk onā is really worth doing that to somebody
(idk why you keep bringing up he didnāt build anything? i know? you donāt need to use the word ādeadnameā to make that point?)
and iām too lazy to check every room iām in and be like, āhey, is casually pretending like weāre doing this evil shitty thing (thatās actually justified bc weāre dunking on a shithead!!) going to be a trigger for you?ā (which, honestly, would still be better than just assuming itās fine)
(if itās not clear, my issue is more with people who literally use the phrase āiām going to deadname twitterā or āthe only time itās OK to deadname something is twitterā or whatever)
itās likeā¦ look, thereās a reason we put actual deadnaming content behind a content warning. iām basically treating it the same way, because even if it is not the literal act of deadnaming a real person, itās still pretending that something traumatic and evil is a cool and normal thing to do, which i do not fuck with, even in jest
people who say ātwitter is the only time iāll deadname somethingā
This is definitely a ridiculous statement from the jump, but thereās no relation to deadnaming at all. Trying to make a comparison between Chicagoans calling it the Sears Tower with the harm deadnaming a person causes is insane. Despite what Mitt Romney and a large portion of US law says, corporations arenāt people.
iām not equating the two, i just donāt think itās worth triggering trans people who have actually been hurt by deadnaming, just to flex on a faceless piece of shit corporation that does not care and is not hurt by it
(to be clear, this is more about using the literal phrase āi will deadname twitterā than calling x ātwitterā itself; for that, see my second point)
going to get on my soapbox about X for a moment for two things
people who say ātwitter is the only time iāll deadname somethingā, like itās a statement that fucking matters at anyone at all, when i donāt want deadnaming to EVER be something weāre treating as OK
calling X ātwitterā is just cope for people who canāt move off the fucking app and want to pretend like musk didnāt successfully take it over, ruin it, and turn it into a nazi child porn site. call it the shit garbage app that it is, the thing you liked called ātwitterā is dead
not directed at anyone in particular or you, OP, just wanted to get this off my chest
If a trans person says or does something morally wrong I do not ever attempt to āpunishā them with deadnaming or misgendering. However, I consider Twitter.com neither transgender nor person. Iām not causing any harm whatsoever. Sorry to offend you, but Elon Musk didnāt invent anything, āXā is just him buying Twitter and loading it up with Nazi Pedophiles., and to further twist the knife, he didnāt invent electric cars, he didnāt perfect space travel, he hasnāt āsolved trafficā, heās not even earned his own video game achievements.
i feel like weāre in agreement, except for the conclusion we arrived at about it
i just donāt like it when people act like saying (literally) āi will deadname twitterā will hurt twitter more than the trans people who might have actually been deadnamed. i think itās a waste to trigger them to act like calling x ātwitterā is a slur or smth
I mean thatās only true for people who actually see it as deadnaming, which it isnāt. As I said before the point isnāt actually āDeadnaming is okay in this instanceā but āThis app is literally just Twitter.ā Elon and supporters have called that deadnaming as some sort of gotcha and nobody argues that it isnāt because itās not like heās actually opposing deadnaming he dislikes the observation that he hasnāt built anything.
okay, sure, but i am a trans person and i have independently concluded that i donāt think itās cool. sure āitās only deadnaming if you think itās literally is the thing weāre calling itā, but the human brain doesnāt work like that; if someone has a strong enough response to it (e.g. they suffered trauma from being deadnamed), then theyāre going to have that response before they go āoh actually they donāt mean it because itās directed at a corpā. i donāt think ādunking on elon musk, who has plenty of other shit to dunk onā is really worth doing that to somebody
(idk why you keep bringing up he didnāt build anything? i know? you donāt need to use the word ādeadnameā to make that point?)
and iām too lazy to check every room iām in and be like, āhey, is casually pretending like weāre doing this evil shitty thing (thatās actually justified bc weāre dunking on a shithead!!) going to be a trigger for you?ā (which, honestly, would still be better than just assuming itās fine)
(if itās not clear, my issue is more with people who literally use the phrase āiām going to deadname twitterā or āthe only time itās OK to deadname something is twitterā or whatever)
itās likeā¦ look, thereās a reason we put actual deadnaming content behind a content warning. iām basically treating it the same way, because even if it is not the literal act of deadnaming a real person, itās still pretending that something traumatic and evil is a cool and normal thing to do, which i do not fuck with, even in jest
This is definitely a ridiculous statement from the jump, but thereās no relation to deadnaming at all. Trying to make a comparison between Chicagoans calling it the Sears Tower with the harm deadnaming a person causes is insane. Despite what Mitt Romney and a large portion of US law says, corporations arenāt people.
iām not equating the two, i just donāt think itās worth triggering trans people who have actually been hurt by deadnaming, just to flex on a faceless piece of shit corporation that does not care and is not hurt by it
(to be clear, this is more about using the literal phrase āi will deadname twitterā than calling x ātwitterā itself; for that, see my second point)