• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    TLDR: Because they don’t give a fuck about you or me or anyone who isn’t a donor.

    Repubs want to hurt you. Dems don’t care that you exist. We need a third party (as if that’s a new idea).

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      Stop fucking talking about 3rd party, that’s throwing your vote away.

      Besides, the tea party proved you don’t need another party, simply primary and take over one of the main ones.

      Progressives have already started, we need to keep the energy going.

      More Mandani’s less Schumers and we’ll get what we want.

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        More Mandani’s

        Ok, this person is a fucking troll trying to sew division on the Left. Zorhan Mamdani proved that young people want progressive politics. This person doesn’t know how to spell his name and they’re claiming he’s the reason we need to keep supporting Dems and “take over” the party when it’s clearly already captured by the corporate class.

        I think this person might be a right-wing plant trying to sabotage Leftist solidarity. They (the right) play dirty. Watch out. Don’t become divided (said the person calling someone a plant; the irony is not lost on me).

        Footnote: a person who genuinely cares about politics enough to want to take over the Dems with progressives would know (or at least look up) how to spell the name of the person they were using in their argument. A person who only wants to sew division might be stupid and not know they should double-check the spelling.

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          Uh, while he may be a fucking troll, it doesn’t mean he isn’t right. He’s trying to divide the left by telling us to not… checks notes… divide? Primarying non-progressive dems is the best bet if you don’t want to have a republican majority for the interim time period between starting a third party and the dems giving up and going home.

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          You know what makes me lose hope? It’s not Republicans pushing fascism and corruption. It’s not the Democrats being spineless and ineffective as a wet rag.

          It’s comments like this, showing that the people who should be upset and fighting against this mess are filled with the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

          “Someone say something I don’t agree with? Must be right wing troll!!!1!!”

          Like damn man. Can you just fucking not? It’s fucking embarrassing to be sharing the same space as people with takes this idiotic.

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            Then they pick apart grammar like some Harry Potter bitch … “its SOW not SEW”.

            Sew what, no one cares you fat sow, sew quit Soing hatred.

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      Quick: who’s got Mayor Mamdani on their team? THOSE guys seem to care about people.

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        Quick: who’s got Mayor Mamdani on their team? THOSE guys seem to car about people.

        The political equivalent of having a black friend just dropped.

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          Don’t let them divide us. I just (five minutes ago) responded to what I think is a pretty clear plant (see misspelling of Mamdami’s name). Whether someone isn’t “Left-enough” to you or whatever, if they want to help people and want to beat the Repubs, try to bring them along.

          There’s the trope that Leftists fight each other and the right have solidarity. The first part is true. The second part is only true in that they unite around hate and fear and bigotry. That’s why the orange dickbag kept firing his cabinet in the first admin. And though he brought a bunch of sycophantic ass-kissers this time, he’s finally removing them too.

          Let’s work together to put these assholes in prison.

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        the Working Families Party is the best hope USAmericans have. Unlike the Green Party, they’re focused on building up their party from the small positions, and proving themselves that way.

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          The same party that brought you Fetterman and is whitewashing war criminal for fun Planter as an anti-imperialist?

          No, no they’re not. They’re focused on branding centrist/right ghouls as far left to infiltrate and hinder actual leftist progress.

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            Forgive my ignorance, I haven’t looked into the Working Families Party yet. Would you mind elaborating on and sourcing where your distaste comes from?

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              The core problem with the Working Families Party is not that it is “too left" as its mainstream apponents like to paint it, it is that it often uses left energy to discipline people back into the Democratic Party, then calls the cleanup “movement-building.” That can win some seats, but it can also teach leftists to accept candidates who later betray the movement.

              WFP treated John Fetterman as a major 2022 battleground project. In its own 2022 memo, WFP called Pennsylvania “the best opportunity for a Democratic Senate pickup” and said it had built one of its largest voter-contact programs in the state for Fetterman against Dr. Oz.

              But Fetterman’s later record exposed the danger of endorsing “vibes” over political discipline. Once in office, he moved sharply away from the left, especially on Palestine. The New Yorker described him as once being “a beacon for progressives” who then moved beyond even many centrist Democrats in his “unconditional support” for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

              Then WFP turned around and announced a future primary effort against him. In 2025, Pennsylvania WFP said Fetterman had “sold out working Pennsylvanians” and accused him of being the deciding vote for a Republican budget bill that would strip health care from millions, including more than 400,000 Pennsylvanians.

              That is the problem: WFP helped manufacture Fetterman’s progressive legitimacy, then asked the movement to spend years undoing the consequences. For left movements, this is exhausting. It turns organizing into a cycle of laundering candidates, being betrayed, then fundraising off the betrayal.

              WFP endorsed Platner in March 2026 for the Maine Senate Democratic nomination, calling him a champion for working people who would fight billionaires, lobbyists, and corporate interests.

              But Platner came with serious baggage. There’s his Nazi tattoo that he got to commemorate the great time he had murdering brown people, there’s the fact that he constantly reminisces about his time in the army and how much he enjoyed his war crimes, so much so that he decided a promotion that put him away from the action was not worth it and joined blackwater to do more war crimes instead. And his old online comments include dismissive remarks about military sexual assault, Black patrons, police officers, rural Americans, and anti-LGBTQ jokes. He’s an unapologetic racist war criminal, and is being pushed as a progressive anti-imperialist.

              The left should absolutely believe in transformation, accountability, and people becoming better. But electoral organizations often convert that principle into something thinner: “ignore the contradictions because he has the right class aesthetic.” That is dangerous. A left movement cannot build durable solidarity if it asks women, Black people, queer people, Jews, or antifascists to subordinate their concerns to a candidate’s “working-class” branding.

              Platner may be better than establishment Democrats on economic policy. But WFP’s endorsement illustrates a recurring weakness: the party often treats populist anti-billionaire language as enough, even when the candidate’s record raises questions about political judgment, accountability, and who gets asked to absorb harm for the sake of “the bigger fight.”

              In 2014, WFP endorsed Cuomo after he promised progressive concessions, even though Zephyr Teachout represented a clearer anti-Cuomo left challenge.

              WFP endorsed Elizabeth Warren over Bernie Sanders, after having backed Sanders in 2016, which intensified divisions on the left.

              In 2021, WFP ranked Scott Stringer first, then rescinded the endorsement after sexual misconduct allegations, then shifted to Maya Wiley and Dianne Morales. The result was a fractured left and Eric Adams as NY mayor.

              That’s what they do.