The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely
Did they not see the video? Bus was almost at a full stop and it still took the truck 5 seconds to hit it at Mach Fuck. Not even a nervous driving instructor would call a >5 second follow distance “too close.”
I’d like to know what was on the driver’s phone that was so much more interesting than a stationary bus a hundred yards in front of them.
2007 Dodge Ram
https://smartfinancial.com/car-brands-with-most-accidents
#2 in accidents. No surprise here.
That’s not a full sized truck. That’s some wankers oversized support vehicle
I know there is lots and lots of righteous anger here. And that everyone can’t wait to hate on the vehicles in the US. But even a quick and dirty cursory search reveals that school bus transportation is extremely safe and accidents are very rare. So let’s add some context.
School buses travel about 16.5 million miles EVERY morning in the US. Double that for total route distance every day.
There is one crash roughly per 311,828 miles. That’s 501,822km for those of you living in West Texas.
Buses travel 7.3 million miles/11,748,211km for every reported injury.
The rate of fatalities is .4 per 100 million miles. And for those anywhere in Alabama, .4 fatalities per 160,934,400km. And that is the total of deaths inside and outside the bus.
Hopefully I can trust Lemmy users understand that zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve. Nor is it possible to reduce stupid to zero. This driver is a prime example of that. Regardless of the vehicle being driven. At best, we can just change the type of stupid. But stupid still going to happen. And apparently even Dodge Ram drivers are statistically very safe around school buses…
zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_Zero should still be our goal, and the U.S. lags behind most other countries in achieving it.
Holy crap, that truck driver only looked up in the last quarter-second. They most certainly were not “following too closely”, that’s bullshit.
The driver of the 2007 Dodge Ram pickup was taken to Wynn Hospital in Utica for treatment of minor injuries…
In the past, that accident would have been fatal to the driver. The only thing that saved him was government regulation requiring safety features, paid for by taxes–just to put a nice, fine point on it. Not everything our governments do is horrible, but I suspect the motivation in this case was insurance company lobbying, not empathy. It’s never empathy.
You’d think a bus would be tall enough to get inside the vision cone of a lifted truck…
The height of pickup trucks should be capped by law. No crash compatibility with normal vehicles, automatically hits pedestrians in their vital organs, can’t see anyone sitting or fallen in front of it. What an absolutely idiotic society to let this kind of thing be driven on public roads without a special licence.
Perhaps the Sun was blinding his view.
Can we just talk about how sweet that hugs was?
Thats a good dad right there.
The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely, Jiron said.
Just for curiousity…did the police think to check the fucking doorbell camera?
“Too closely”? My man he’s a good 50-100m away from that bus at the start of the clip, and the bus didn’t just jack on its brakes, that was a slow and diliberate stop.
Following to closely. Lol.
The definition of “following too closely” is relatively circular. You have proper following distance if you stop in time to avoid a collision. If you don’t avoid a collision, you obviously didn’t have enough following distance.
“The cars wouldn’t have run into each other if they had been further apart” is basically them saying "driver wasn’t dunk or impaired, no sign of mechanical failure, and no evidence they were distracted.
Driving into the back of a school bus is evidence that you at the very least should have been further back, assuming you did everything else by the book.In most drivers ed programs, they teach 4 second following distance. You pick a landmark, start counting when the car in front of you passes it, and you should count to at least 4 by the time your vehicle passes the same spot.
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s actually a law in many places.
Yup, they taught me that rule of thumb too. It’s not a specific law because the law says you must dive safely with appropriate following distance for road conditions, which can be longer than 4 seconds in bad weather.
Like my state has:
(1) The operator of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of the vehicles and the traffic upon and the condition of the highway.
It’s both good and bad that there’s no objective measure, depending on if you’re the one getting a ticket for driving like an ass.
No reason it couldn’t be a minimum
Maybe they meant on Instagram, because broski was clearly distracted by his phone.
Probably not, because it says ‘initial’?
Guys the bus just jumped outta no where, he had no time to react. Plus it wasn’t dressed in bright enough colors to be visible
As a school bus driver, it is consistently shocking how invisible I am on the road
Everything happened so fast, he had only minutes to react!
Mannn, this is exactly what maga said when renee was murdered. “He had seconds to react!!”
Pickup truck mows a school bus and almost the kids inside too would be a better title for what I am seeing in the video
Now imagine that it was a sedan doing a carpool. Fuck everyone who drives a truck to commute around town. Fuck everyone who thinks, I’ll buy a truck because I’ll be safer. I hope gasoline goes up to $15 per gallon and every truck driving piece of shit has to choose between eating or driving because of their moronic vehicle buying decision.
Just for that ignorance, on my next finance, I’m going to trade in my toyota and get a 2500 ram with a cummins. Cause fuck you.
I just asked a question but your response is pretty telling
Lol you didn’t even ask a question.
You told a bunch of people to fuck themselves.
pretty telling
Lmao
If it was a sedan doing a car pool they’d probably all have been decapitated… So him having a truck saved his life
Dunno what your argument is but it’s kinda insane
they’d probably all have been decapitated
If that’s a risk, do you not have underrun bars?
But also as someone else said they meant if it was a regular car instead of the bus, not the truck.
If you drive up the arse of a goddamn school bus with that much stopping distance you deserve to hurt only yourself, not the kids in the back of that bus.
They were talking about the bus. If the truck rear ended a sedan, not if a sedan rear ended a bus.
Sedan instead of a bus. I’m guessing you drive a truck to commute to an office job every day?
No… a car doing a carpool instead of a bus.
Truck or no truck, you can’t fix stupid.
And thus, for everybody’s safety, no truck.
Distracted by cell phones me apparently
