Maybe they meant that the student rushes/half asses tasks. Doing them quickly doesn’t imply them being correct.
I got this, too. It was because I didn’t show my work. So I started writing out my process, and it wasn’t “how we were taught”, and got a 0 once again for it.
After that I just quit doing the work at all, and I’m sure they felt justified calling me lazy. I’m a lot of things but I’m not lazy.
My worst version of this was in third grade where we learned our multiplication tables. Our teacher had us all make multiplication flashcards. 1x1 up through 12x12. She then assigned us to spend a certain amount of hours practicing the flashcards, including some log and parental sign-off IIRC. A card might have “3x8” written on one side, “24” on the other. Practice and drill until you memorize them all.
Well, the problem I had was that I memorized my times tables in a fraction of the time we were required to practice. I ended up getting in trouble for not having enough practice hours - even though I was acing the quizzes we were getting. This wasn’t even about showing your work, as this was a rote exercise in memorization!
But the teacher thought that it took X number of hours of practice to learn your times tables. That’s what she assigned, and nothing was going to change her mind. So I sat at home pointlessly practicing the times tables I had already memorized, instead of doing something fun or even moving ahead to more advanced math concepts.
I had teachers like this. Let’s just say I keep coming back to less than nice things to say about that kind of behavior.
The flash-card thing is kind of cursed anyway because multiplication is commutative, and you really don’t need the cards for zero, one, and ten. If you can add anything to itself in your head, throw out the twos while we’re at it. So you really only need 40-ish cards to do the job, not 144+.
or even moving ahead to more advanced math concepts.
Yeah, can’t break the class up into multiple lesson plans. Gotta move with the herd.
In a just world, you’d have been bumped up a grade, moved into an advanced track, or given time in advanced sessions with other gifted students. That said, your teacher would have been responsible for making those recommendations. FWIW, I did get into those advanced sessions but only after contact with a teacher that wasn’t projecting, envious, or an authoritarian blowhard about this kind of thing.
In a just world, you’d have been bumped up a grade, moved into an advanced track, or given time in advanced sessions with other gifted students. That said, your teacher would have been responsible for making those recommendations.
Oh that did end up happening eventually. I did go down that track. Ended up taking calculus freshman year of high school.
There’s alot of us out there that don’t work like the system expects. You either know the answer or you don’t, taking more time doesn’t do anything for our brains.
There’s alot of us out there that don’t work like the system expects.
But the role of the teacher is to analyze the student’s behavior and provide useful coaching/advice. If your response to every critique is “Well, I’m just not constructed to operate that way” then you’ve squandered any value in the perspective of your mentor.
You’re implying some kind of native and intractable component of your psychology. As though neither you, nor any of your classmates, should ever be expected to adapt or expand your abilities. A bleak perspective to apply in adulthood. An absolutely nihilistic perspective to have when you’re still a very plastic formative child.
You either know the answer or you don’t
On multiple choice questions, maybe. Not on essays or proofs or other depth-of-knowledge questions.
If you were asked the question “How do bird’s fly?” you can provide a very wide latitude of answers. Some of them are short and pithy “They flap their wings”. While others are far more involved or focused on a particular area of expertise “<explanation of the physics of flight>” versus “<explanation of the biology of flying animals>” versus “<explanation of the learning process of animal intelligence>”.
But if you’re in a biology class and you keep giving physics answers to the question, then turning your nose up at your teacher when they say you are missing something critical, why did you sign up for the class to begin with?
“How do bird’s fly?”
Mostly horizontally, a bit vertically. 😂
You made a lot of assumptions about that person based off of a very short comment. Why not just take someone at their word?
Yeah! Once a teacher was mad at me for being too quick and when she checked to scold me, everything was correct…
I used to sleep in my accounting class. Another student got offended and was like why doesn’t he just skip? My teacher said he comes in, gets straight As, he can take a nap if he likes.
This was me in highschool, I was so bored of the pace we were going at, so I skipped a lot of classes, came in and aced tests, not with the correct answers they were looking for, but still correct. 🤣
This was me including the AP classes. Then I got accepted to a really good engineering school and got my ass handed to me because I never developed proper study skills.
This was me in engineering school as well. First 2 years were brutal because I’d never really had to study and things suddenly got hard and needed to put in some effort. I got through it but it was a much different learning experience than I expected.
It’s weird to think there might be people who had a different experience with engineering school.
I got through it too but I can’t say I ever developed the level of study skills that some of my classmates had. In the end I guess I developed my own study style which I guess I still use now almost 40 years later in my work career.
See I use to do the same in history but I got an F. Loser
Me in chemistry. I would sleep in class then get called on and answer correctly just to fall back asleep.
She was an awful teacher though.
This was me in world history and chemistry. I napped and got woken up if no one else had the answer in the former, woke up after the lab was explained (that was just regurgitating what was in the lab sheets) then did the lab in the latter
Based
I remember being told I needed to do homework at home and my assigned work at school. I was fast enough that I got through the assignment and started on my homework. Teacher told me to stop. I kept at it as I figured it was better than sitting around bored out of my skull. Teacher lost her shit and I got sent to the principal’s office.
As a kid, this confused me. However, I kept doing it.
While teaching is an underpaid profession, and good teachers deserve A LOT of respect for what they do, it has to be said that many many horrible people become teachers.
I’ve had my fair share of these people. Would throw them off a cliff if I could lol
It’s probably one of the biggest reasons why almost nobody wants to become a teacher. Like a few bad teachers will sour a kid’s ambition to become a teacher.
I loved to read, so if I got my work or test done quickly, I had time to read while everybody else was still.workung.
I was especially good with reading tests, because I was always the best reader in my classes in elementary school. I was always the first done.
Part of the purpose of homework is to encourage the student to revisit the assignment later in the day. Repetition of exercise develops muscles and your brain is a muscle.
That said
Teacher lost her shit
Generally best when teachers manage their own tempers, as hot heads do a poor job of gaining the trust and maintaining the attention of their students.
I struggled at math as a young kid because I hated doing everything the long way and showing every step. I got a mental math book that taught how to do longer form multiplication in your head. I could multiply 2-3 digit numbers in my head and just tell you the answer.
My teacher made me do it on the board in front of everyone and swore I was cheating somehow because if she couldn’t do it, a kid couldn’t either.
I was also reading Michael Chriton books in the 4th grade, and teachers thought that I wasn’t because kids don’t read books like that.
School was kinda annoying with how it would punish you for being anywhere outside of normal. Even if it was positive.
swore I was cheating somehow because if she couldn’t do it, a kid couldn’t either
because kids don’t read books like that.
School was kinda annoying with how it would punish you for being anywhere outside of normal. Even if it was positive.
This 100x. I taught myself how to read before going to first grade. The reward was being isolated in an empty classroom for a lot of first grade when others were learning to spell. Well there was one other kid, but she didn’t speak. She had been taught by her extremely strict parents to read before school. They had like 7 children and were horribly strict. This girl starter crying once when she got what’s equivalent to an A-, afraid she was going be yelled at at home.
There was a special class for anyone below average. But dear me, if you were above average no you weren’t, because that’s just rude.
Doing any work I was given faster than other didn’t result in getting more challenging work. It just resulted in getting more of the same boring shit I’d already shown I know very well.
I could’ve been one of those kids who go to college at 14, but nooooo. I just learned to avoid work and hide my skills
Remember title of mental math book?
My first grade teacher criticized me for not cutting straight enough on some time waster paper piecing project we were doing. Sorry for not having perfect motor control, I’m 6??
Damn does your family still remind you of it 30 years later and are you me?
6? You were a year behind already! ;)
Where’s that behind? In the US 5 year olds go to kindergarten, and 6 year olds to 1st grade. Sorry if some joke is wooshing me lol
I was just yanking the other guy’s chain.
Depends on the birthday cutoff. My daughter will be a 6yo kindergartner for most of it because she’ll be five for the first few months of the school year
The problem is psychopaths are driven to leadership and they’re not actually good at anything.
Basically their ego tells them that they’re pareto people when they’re really not and society can’t tell the difference. Mostly they just steal labor. And they’re too stupid and insecure to identify and empower the most efficient people.
Wtf does that have to do with the post
That was my question but I thought I was just being high.
All teachers are psychopaths. Get with the program
Common forms of “society doesn’t understand or value the people who actually get shit done”.
You just described MAGA.
Just reminded me what Pareto Principle was and now I have business school PTSD. Thanks.
It actually might be a fundamental principal of the universe like the Fibunnacci sequence. It shows up everywhere, there’s a great old vsauce episode on it.
Sure. Still doesn’t resolve the PTSD from BS management classes though lol.
Yea and these people will not shut the fuck up, either.
I suppose it could be a criticism of the quality of the work: i.e. you finish it quickly but it’s half-arsed because you were too lazy to take the time to do it properly.
I had a teacher who said the same bullshit. But she also fucking sucked at her job. She taught typing and computer literacy but did not actually know how to use a computer and just hated every student that knew more than her.
I see you also had Mrs. Anz for computer class.
I got the same insult as a child. I just thought “ah she’s stupid” and moved on and never thought about it until I saw this post
A task is always only so big that the weakest child can do it. That’s often not enough to learn something thoroughly.
When I was a kid, I noticed that I was consistently finishing My work early, so I asked the teacher for the next lesson’s work. I wanted to speed through the entire year’s coursework and finish early so I could have an extended summer.
Teacher said no, but I got My wish in the end. I got to skip an entire year of school. Didn’t get any more summer, though.
When I was a child, I was told that Communism failed because it gave no incentive for people to work hard and better themselves and their society. After all, if everyone is paid the same and has a guaranteed job, why worker harder than than anyone else? As an adult, I learned the same thing applies to workers in capitalist societies. In most companies, there is little reason to do more than the bare minimum needed to keep from getting fired. Promotions never happen as companies prefer to hire externally. Real raises and bonuses don’t happen; you have to move companies to get a real raise. And of course, workers don’t get any direct reward for working more. The owners just pocket all the profits and tell you to work harder.
I turns out both American Capitalism and Soviet Communism wasted colossal amounts of human potential.
Meanwhile Australian communists created an agricultural system so efficient that their daily work only took a few hours, and they could spend most of the day sitting around and talking. Early Europeans remarked on how little the Aboriginal people worked and called their existence “miserable”, but I wish I had as much free time as a precolonial Australian.
This reminds me of that old series “And Now…The Rest of the Story”.
This is Paul Harvey…Good Day!
I know I ain’t doin’ much.
Doing nothing means a lot to me.~ AC/DC Downpayment Blues
Quick ≠ good
Quick ≠ bad
Tell that to your wife
Yeah but if the work were bad, she probably would’ve included that in the criticism, because it’s a way better criticism
People often frame themselves the hero
People often argue using bad assumptions.
Man… Sort working with my kiddo on this particular root issue. Getting to the answer is great. Do it fast for sure. But learning the skill of sustained effort is an important skill to develop. We’re using piano as our entry point. He’ll be able to get the piece down in about 45 to 60 minutes. So we’re working on developing creative expression in a piece, improv that allows for techniques learned in the piece, and then just introducing the next piece. I’m looking forward to him creatively engaging the same piece for an extended period of time.
“Gifted” education has come a long way since I was a kid. We know acceleration isn’t the only or even best tool for kids. And many gifted kids come with different executive functions so rote repetition feels like torture. Employing a depth of knowledge schema and circling back to previously learned concepts coupled with individual expression has been great! That and developing emotional tools for self regulation have been the primary efforts for the last few years. It’s been getting a lot better!
Always did my homework on Friday night. Another girl on the bus would start her homework two periods before school ended and also finished on the bus ride home.
I did that, but on the ride to school.
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