• n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca
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    The idea comes from their being a law that no one can be turned away from the ER for being unable to pay. They usually just send you a huge bill later. They argue that undocumented workers are more likely to have a fake DL in their pocket or a fake social security number so they are more likely to get away with it.

    My American cousins have said they’ve honestly thought of saying they didn’t have their wallet and give them a fake name when they went in for just that reason, but they chickened out being uncertain what would happen if they got caught.

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      I have a "friend’ who did it with a broken arm. 10 years on no clap back.

      They just write that stuff off. Put on grubby cloths and rub a little dirt on yourself so you look borderline homeless. Tell them your between addresses when asked.

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    I think there might be another source of this stupid notion. Universities host free clinics where current students can practice their specialties on volunteer patients, who usually are from underserved communities and/or undocumented, who cannot get medical attention any other way. So of course, this is the “free healthcare for illegals”, dramatically exagerrated… Ignoring the fact that it is provided by less-experienced students, at very low capacity, and is technically available to anyone.

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    It’s like asking conservatives if illegals are lazy, why is ICE raiding job sites? Logic ain’t their strong suit.

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    Yeah, one of the electricians that was working on my house got a little chummy with me one day several years back and said something about how if he was smart he’d go to Mexico and then cross back into the USA illegally so he could get the free debit card with thousands of dollars in the account that we give to everybody coming into the country at the border.

    I said something along the lines of, “You’ll have to enlighten me, what the fuck are you even talking about.”

    This man insisted that Biden was giving every single illegal immigrant that crosses the border a debit card worth thousands of dollars.

    I said, “And do you honestly believe that?”

    His response? “Yes.” Because most of the guys he works with are “Mexicans” and they told him it was true.

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      So… Did any of them have this card? Of course not. Because they’re here legally of course, and can’t tell who else might have one.

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        The audience doesn’t care they’re being lied to. If you show proof it’s a lie, they immediately jump to the next talking point which is usually also a lie.

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        Words are just a way to get what they want. Truth has no intrinsic value to them. In fact, they enjoy telling obvious falsehoods and getting array with it. It’s a power play. A domination thing.

        They are deeply flawed people.

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        Depends on who we’re referring to. Their politicians aren’t all stupid. They talk to their base that way because they believe their base is stupid.

        Edit:Spelling. I should be more careful about that when commenting critically.

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    there is some similarity to famous schrodinger immigrant. too lazy to work and taking your job at the same time.

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      Duur they look different than us so they must be the problem. If we get rid of them all our jobs will come back, we will get medical coverage again, and the government won’t be in debt.

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        and somehow, Trump deported fewer immigrants last year than Biden did in 2024, and Trump still had to cut SNAP and Medicare/Medicaid just to end up in far more debt!

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      Also theyjust rape all day while being lazy abd stealing your job.

      There are a lot of latino cops, so its not entirely wrong.

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    Let’s see how Mexico’s rollout of universal healthcare works (hoping it does go well for them!) then watch that entire argument fall to pieces once MAGAS realize they’re still losing their homes to medical debt, or going without any affordable drugs or doctors access…

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    I think the strawman argument is that they go to the ER, which typically cannot deny care due to lack of insurance. That in turn makes it “free” for them.

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      The gotcha here is that all they will do is make sure you’re not actively dying. If you’re well enough to make survive till the next weekday you’re getting a referral and told to GTFO of the ER.

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        They’re taught not to question. It’s one of the primary reasons the conservatives started targeting religious groups decades ago. They’re brainwashed from birth to do what they’re told, not to think about it, but just have faith that a book written by man somehow is superior to anything else man has done because someone at some point said it came from a mystical being that no one can talk to directly and only responds indirectly.

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        But the hospitals know exactly who the undocumented ones are, and provide free service to them only. /s

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    Key phrase: “none of them have thought”

    This is standard for American conservatives and makes the whole hypothesis believable. They don’t think, they just go along with what conservative media tells them.

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    Imigrants are bad. Claiming to be an immigrant makes me bad. Therefore I should pay my share and blame immigration for me having to pay. And that’s just math…

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    I worked for a hospital that would give free dialysis to immigrants for charity tax purposes.