Tuta just launched their encrypted cloud storage in closed beta, completing a compelling zero-knowledge workspace with email, calendar, contacts, and drive. Here's my first look at what's there, what's missing, and why this is bigger than just another cloud provider.
  • vatlark@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    16 天前

    Proton drive’s docs are just starting to be good enough that I would recommend them, but they are far from feature parity with google’s. Just try to make a PDF of a word doc, copy cells that are used in equations to a different sheet, or create a presentation.

    Tuta could be a real contender if they wanted to be.

    • Cris_Citrus@piefed.zipEnglish
      12·
      16 天前

      While I’m very happy with my tutanota email, I think theyd need a lot more resources to successfully build the kinda polish that would enable them to really compete

      Their email client is good enough for my needs but it can be a little rough around the edges at times and its their main product.

      I’d love for them to manage it anyway, I like the folks there :)

      • warm@kbin.earth
        8·
        16 天前

        Yea its a strange decision from them. We dont need another cloud storage solution, when their mail service still needs a lot of polish.

  • Clocks [She/They]@lemmy.mlEnglish
    16·
    16 天前

    I’m disappointed the money I pay is going into this.

    I rather have inbox rules for labels then energy being put into something I already have my own storage solution for.

    Also, I feel like this is going to run into the problem that is, a cloud storage requires a fuck ton more bandwidth than email/calendars do, which will inevitably make tuta raise their pricing.

  • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
    3·
    16 天前

    Honestly, having just finally sorted out all my cloud BS I don’t know if I like these sorts of providers anymore. I had about a decade and a half worth of data on Google Drive, and they use a proprietary format for their files. They at least had a way to extract the files easily, via their Takeout feature. OneDrive just hijacks your files and there’s no easy way to get all your files back. I had to reinstall Windows and do it that way. Fucking bullshit.

    Box and Dropbox doesn’t have a way to download your files, neither does Proton Drive as far as I can tell.

    NextCloud seems to be the only good alternative. You choose the office suite, and your files are wholly yours, not wrapped up in some ambiguous cloud somewhere with some obscure file-system you can’t fully access.

    • vatlark@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      16 天前

      I would love to hear how collaborating on docs works in nextcloud. Or really of any open source solution that does collaboration well.

      They may exist, I’m just ignorant

      • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
        2·
        16 天前

        Don’t have an answer for you there, unfortunately. I know it’s a thing that exists and works, but how well? No idea. I also know that NextCloud has federation capabilities. I’m curious how that works.

        I opted to go for a managed version of NextCloud via Hetzner Storage Share, because I came to the conclusion that if it’s data I’ve kept on OneDrive and Google Drive, it’s not like it’s that private to begin with. NextCloud is supposedly (and in my brief experience) quite a lot to maintain, so the trade-off seemed worth it to me. Anything I need true privacy for I’m not going to put in the cloud like that anyway.

        It required me to set up a Collabora CODE instance for “cloud” document editing capabilities. That was super easy. That should enable things like collaboration, but I really only have this for myself. I wanted to get rid of the last few ties I have with the aforementioned services and get more control over my data myself. I’ve no illusions that Google and Microsoft somehow doesn’t have copies of my stuff, and use that for whatever nefarious purposes, to me that ship has already sailed. It was more important to me that I had my files and that I don’t get some stupid vendor lock-in, which thanks to how NextCloud works, you don’t.

        If I decide in the future that NextCloud (or Hetzner) isn’t worth it, I just download it all and close the account. There’s no conversion of file formats, no wonky forms to go through to be allowed to get your own data, no shady applications to download and install, no APIs to screw around with. That’s what mattered to me.

  • Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    13 天前

    Great to see competition for Proton. Their CEO comments rubbed me the wrong way.

    I am looking at them for their suite so Tuta is a solid alternative.

    Mullvad VPN as standard and then a VPN that works well for streaming and sailing TBD.

  • thesdev@feddit.orgEnglish
    2·
    16 天前

    Tuta just launched their encrypted cloud storage in closed beta

    Cannot believe I lived long enough to see this happening. Here we go for waiting two more years for it to become GA.