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Murdoch tabloid leads charge as big freeze persists – could the mayor please do something about the weather?
It snowed two weeks ago in New York. Since then, the temperature has barely risen above freezing – a temperature science naturally dictates is necessary to melt snow and ice.
But science isn’t enough for some US political critics, however, who have instead blamed Zohran Mamdani, New York’s new socialist mayor, for the snow not having melted and still clogging up some of the city’s streets.
The New York Post, the rightwing tabloid and a frequent Mamdani critic, has led the charge. This week the newspaper claimed that “slushy streets” were “ruining travel for everyone”.
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Canadian here. “Barely risen above freezing” means it’s above freezing. That means it’s warm. Are right wing pundits just a bunch of wussies?
They’re narrative opportunists. They seek out ways to dilute the information sphere, because that weakens the effectiveness of any productive conversation overall.
- Did cigarettes give you cancer, or could it have been asbestos from an old house?
- Did greenhouse gases cause global warming, or is it cold outside right now and that means everyone except you is an idiot?
- Are we setting up a surveillance state, or do we just want infrastructure to help you find your lost dog one day?
- …
Truth becomes arbitrary, opinionated, prone to interpretation… how can society continue to operate when they can’t agree on anything? When the ball isn’t in the court of institutional knowledge, it’s free of the taking by whoever wants to construct narrative in their favor.
Check out what percent of psychology studies these days can actually be reproduced via peer review.
Does the pope shit in the woods?
Does a gorilla train in the alps?
Ashton Kutchner hates freedom, and is integral to bringing the trojan horse of ai threat detection in to survel everything everyone does or says online.
Family Guy had a good take on Ashton, a better tv show for him…
So many pieces of shit on that show, like Kutchner and rapey Masterson
Yeah. Kutchner is an ongoing thing though, Europe hates him, they are using kids getting abused to try and break all encryption and run everything said and done through their half baked ai threat detection. As if it would end with child abuse. Israel, the environmental protesters against big projects, climate protesters will all immediately be on the chopping block and we all know it. Then everyone else.
So called chatcontrol, the umpteenth iteration proposed and defeated in europe as Kutchner’s group, backed by Big Tech Money, but also with their own software they want to sell to sift through formerly private messages, and their networks of fake child safety organizations tool the well intentioned people that trust them, and propose bringing the trojan horse redesign behind the walls all the time, for decades now, and they’ve gotten close.
Same with age checks, they are being used to lock down the internet further and put everything done or said in a dossier on each person with ai making threat assessments on them, and that information filtered down, without attibution, to everything from banks, to cops and courts, to your search engine, to the digital price tags hooked up to ai and face recognition giving “personalized prices” on the spot. 1984 style but with tech those bastards couldn’t dream of.
Someone should really give Seth the seed money to start his rival Tv Show, Tomahocked. It’s a short pilot episode here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNlY9ZqwmBI
Oh yeah, trust me I know. That fucking “Chat Control” bullshit just refuses to die, even though AI detection has been scrapped for now. I’m 100% convinced our “leaders” will push it on us after this current marginally watered down version is in use.
Ditto with age checks. The Finnish far-right government just managed to push that through, zero chance it won’t mutate into something worse eventually
I can’t really speak for NYC, because I don’t live there anymore. I’m in Albany, NY, 150 mi north, and it’s been hovering around -15 to -20 centigrade. (Water freezes at 0 centigrade.) A quick weather search shows it’s been hovering at/below freezing down there. Snow doesn’t melt when it’s this cold out. I don’t know where the fuck the post thinks the snow is going to go.
They don’t care about the snow. They care about getting people mad at their enemy. The post, and conservatives more generally, are bad,. dishonest, people.
They know what they’re saying is stupid. They are trying to build anger and when there is nothing material to twist, they have to invent something. Eventually they will build an entire alternate universe mythology around Mamdani, just as they do with all their enemies.
Aren’t these the same people who believe in a rodent to tell them how long winter is?
or an almanac that is basically 50/50 guesses?
Lol, they copied the groundhog day from Pennsylvania in Wiarton, Ontario, an area farther north. So the whole “if he sees his shadow, it means six more weeks of winter, otherwise spring comes at a normal time” is actually worse than our normal spring time (though many years in the past few decades have been exceptions to this). Like if it warmed up by mid-March, that would be an early spring.
Worst part is that I noticed this on my own. Like I’m probably not the first, but it’s not like the usual BS where people might repeat it but are also quick to say it’s inaccurate, my experience is that the groundhog gets brought up, I’ll mention that even the “bad case” sounds way better than reality, then people stop and think before agreeing that yes, it is that way. I’m hoping it’s because they weren’t taking it seriously in the first place.
… Yes. The rodent they typically expect to dictate the weather mostly uses a sharpie, but it was only a matter of time before they recognized all rodents.
Thanks Mamdani…
This is great! Obama is finally off the hook.
Bruh, even in the South there are still huge piles of snow and it’s been like 70/80 degrees for the past four days
Cause he’s preventing climate change?
… wut
Hey southern people/non-phsyics-readers?
Snow is the best insulator to keep snow from melting
When you blame the mayor for the weather.
Well damn Jackie I can’t control the weather!
Is it possible, being as how snow removal is the city’s responsibility, they’re actually complaining about that? If snow removal isn’t done in a timely manner, slush does indeed form and just moves around, not melting much.
Quickly reading the article suggests that’s the actual complaint.
I like the Guardian and Mamdani but come on here. Let’s focus on whether or not that complaint is accurate, and whether he’s had any chance to impact the city’s snow removal plans, which are generally done well in advance by someone other than the mayor.
Former NYC resident here. Growing up, NYC rarely got snow like the storm we just had the last week of January. Like maybe it happens Once every 2-5 years. On top of that, the city tends to warm up quickly because of the jet stream and being on the coast, so the snow tends to melt faster. (Specific heat of water keeps the temps there above freezing.) It’s been freakishly cold in the city, well below the freezing point of water, for an extended period of time, so it’s not melting as fast. It just gets pushed around. Also, the mayor took office 1 month ago. Like give the guy a break.
Thank you! Same thing happened in the South after the freak storm in January, we had snow/ice for like 10 days which is hugely abnormal, no snow removal was done, streets became sheets of ice. Mail delivery stopped for a week. Everything did. Schools shut down over a week. I worked from home for a week. Number of people blaming the mayor? 0
The south tends to budget far less for snow removal than norther states. So when a big storm hits, it shuts things down way way longer because it takes them even longer just to clear it. The actual Post article, uses three photos as reference images, and I am sure those were the worst they could find. However, you can see from those images that streets are mostly clear. The sidewalks are a different story, businesses are responsible for clearing the snow from the sidewalks in front of their stores. With respect to parking, parking in NYC has always been ass no matter what. If people still choose to drive in the city in this weather, and they aren’t planning accordingly to leave themselves more time to find parking, that’s on them. NYC has extensive public transportation, and it isn’t super expensive. I usually cycle to work up here in Albany, but with the cold and snow I am taking the bus. The public transit up here in Albany can’t hold a candle to what NYC has, and I have no problem making it to work on time or getting shopping done. (I’m 5 miles from work, and 3-10 miles from my preferred grocery stores.)
They need some of that hell fire the RepubliKKKlans bring with them to melt it asap
They didn’t take this chance to criticize global warming?
Trump did almost immediately…
But that’s only because people who think they understand it but don’t keep saying “global warming” instead of climate change
As long as naive idiots who think they understand keep saying “global warming” you can’t expect the other idiots to understand the problem.
But good luck convincing any of them to stop using the phrase they learned 30 years ago, or to incorporate new information.
In 30 more years they’ll all be acting like boomers because they never actually understood any of this, they’re literally doing the same as boomers and insisting what they were told in he high will always be true
It’s incredibly depressing knowing it’s gonna keep happening.
The MAGA Mantra: Don’t bother me with facts, my mind is made up.
The only benefit of “climate change” over “global warming” is that it does not suggest it will get warmer everywhere, though in turn it fails to communicate that the global annual temperature is steadily increasing.
And worse yet, the change in terminology suggests a retreat from a prior position, allowing denialists to suggest that scientists changed their mind and they are two distinct concepts.
It’s a terminology change not worth arguing about. Global warming causes local climate change, and climate change is just the local effect of global warming.
We should absolutely use whichever term communicates best with the audience we are trying to reach, but mocking someone for the terminology they use is counterproductive and reinforces the fallacy that the ideas are meaningfully different.
The main benefit of rhetorically talking about “climate change” instead of “global warning” is that “climate change” sounds fairly innocuous to the layperson, and can be easily misconstrued as “natural”.
How many conservatives have you heard say something like “of course the climate changes, it happens every day!”
There’s a reason the bush administration pushed the “climate change” narrative so hard.
These deep freezes are literally caused by global warming.
The higher layers of the atmosphere are unusually warm, causing instability in the arctic weather systems which lead to these jet streams escaping the vortex, blasting freezing air way farther south than it usually goes.
I’ve tried explaining this to my conservative family and they just stare at me blankly and nod like they think it’s a cope that doesn’t deserve their attention…
Isn’t this also a La Niña season? They typically bring such freezing weather to the northeast US.
Though global warming is impacting the El Niño-Southern Oscillation cycle, and that influences everywhere else. It’s all interconnected. Unfortunately, the more complicated the system, the harder it is for conservatives to understand.
If the ocean currents change, which they could, it could usher in chronically colder temperatures for parts of the northern hemisphere, namely the north atlantic. It’s only the warm caribeean water that circulates up there that keeps it habitable it is pretty far up there. If that changes, or any number of other ocean currents, there really could be a day after tomorrow type situation, even as it could be warmer elsewhere. Ocean currents are the main drivers of climate, and there are too many interconnected variables we don’t have the values for to predict no matter how big the computer.
You’re right, but if ocean currents collapse it would be due to unusual warming. So even that type of freeze would be due to global warming
Yes of course, it’s all from greenhouse gasses. In the ice ages too, while North America was like half glacier, all of siberia was open, there was a glacier around scandanavia. But the Mammoth Steppe, what they called Siberia/Eurasia there, the Steppes of Asia now, the limitless expanse of grass and fields from Ukraine to Mongolia and beyond, held an incredible diversity and amount of life for a place so far north. It actually got colder in Siberia from the ice ages, at least in the far north, what is now the permafrost, had plants and animals in the ice ages, as I understand it.
As such there is a lot of co2 trapped in organic matter up there under that permafrost, 2x as is in the atmosphere just in siberian permafrost they figure. Then huge swamps, methane sinks. The arctic is warming way faster than the rest of the world too, and as the permafrost melts that methane floods the atmosphere, (methane has been estimated to be 30% of warming so far,) and bacteria work on the organic matter in the permafrost and release that CO2, making the mother of all positive feedback loops once it gets going to that point.
It’s not the total co2 that causes mass extinctions either, it’s the rate of increase, if it happens slowly the earth will absorb it as it goes, when it happens too fast, it overwhelms the systems that abosorb it. A previous mass extinction also centered around Siberia, huge lava flows a thousand miles long for centuries, all absorbed in time, until one hit a giant deposit of coal and other hyrdrocarbons, and overwhelmed the co2 absorbing systems, along with all the other byproducts of coal and molten rock and burning oil. The oceans turned into toxic soup, oxygen left huge swaths of the ocean, most everything went extinct and anaerobic life made a comeback. Can’t recall if that’s the Permian extinction I should look up that podcast I heard on the guardian long read about it earlier this summer.
So the only thing we know for certain, is we can’t know how it will play out, but that it will be faster than “expected,” as monied interests make sure we expect less severe outcomes because more realistic ones would require us to change our behavior. And of course they seize on the uncertainty of it to discredit it, to do nothing, to attack. It’s all rather hopeless without an organized resistance to monied interests and we don’t have that, same as with politics honestly. Without good people being organized and real leadership directing them, we lose to organized monied interests that set us against each other and in the wrong directions and waste out time fighting under doomed to fail candidates and strategies.
We need to organize, it doesn’t seem to matter the subject, we need to organize, and we need real leadership.
Yup, we’re basically accelerating towards becoming the next Venus…
And I used to be really motivated to change course, but I didn’t only meet resistance from entrenched monetary interests, but also from among my peers among the proletariat who seemed more intent on reminding me to check my white/male privilege at every step than they did on actually collaborating towards shared goals and advancing class solidarity.
So I’ve long since given up, I can’t change the tides of history, and no one wants me to try. Not even the people who would benefit from a tide change.
It’s not like I’ll ever have kids, womankind has unanimously rejected me. So why should I care about the future? Sure, I love plants and animals. I find the loss of biodiversity to be tragic, and would love to see a more beautiful world of peace and universal prosperity. But I can’t do anything about those things, so I’m at the “accept the things I cannot change” stage.
If people wanted me to fight for them, they had their chance. But I’m not gonna keep fighting for people who actively fight against me. I’m tired, boss.
Don’t sell yourself short with meeting woman. It’s hard to meet people, it’s not just you, no one can meet people well now, and we are at the mercy of online dating, which could be putting their thumbs on the scale against you without you ever knowing. You can and will find someone, whether you have kids or not, woman have not rejected you, you just haven’t met the right woman yet, as you haven’t been in a position to meet them yet. Join groups around your interests and meet people, you will get there.
That all said, I know what you mean, the left is overrun by divisive people, it’s said half of people join left groups to kick the other half out. And any groups seem to be filled with cliques more intent on keeping control of the group and any revenues it produces than achieving any actual goal. The divisive people you are dealing with there are the worst to deal with too, those are the ones that the right wing media/influencers find, interview, highlight, to paint an insufferable caricature of “the left,” that is used to tar the entire group.
It works too, for instance the classic is they find the sassy young woman to tell them that whites are going to be a minority soon (kind of a misnomer anyway, whites won’t be larger than all the other minorities combined, they will still be the largest group,) and then things are going to change and so forth. It’s incredibly damaging, and just plain wrong. We are in a class struggle and race is just used to divide us; and framing issues like that prevents getting support to change the issue.
But they play up the fear of minorities rigging the game against whites, all while pitting white verses minorities, when it’s the monied interests that are making life hard, cheating us, rigging the game against us all.
That is why the organized interests frame our issues like that, why when we make a point about how after the new deal a job could pay for a family with a dignified life. They will break in well minorities were mistreated, and try to change the subject.
First of all, minumum wage applied to all non farm workers, so minorities got it as well. Second of all at no point in human history was anything perfect, if you discount everything from a period because they didn’t live in an egalitarian society where injustice didn’t exist, there would be no time in history you could use, no person you could admire, especially not our own time, and anyone alive now. The sheer ridiculousness of the logic is maddening but it’ is used to great effect to derail real conversations, and campaigns.
We do want your help fighting, and we want to help fight. It’s just we have no leadership, and no organization, and are being led by the enemy in effect. We are purposefully set against each other, misdirected, and led to fight under people that cannot and will not win, in doomed to fail strategies, leaders whose reason for being is preventing popular reform, not beating the other guys or achieving the stated goals of the organization. All of our resulting energies are wasted as such, or misdirected, we are attacked, criticized, our allies are goaded into attacking us, or quieting us, recruitng us to fall in line behind leaders that can’t and won’t win. All while being associated with charicatures of insufferable people used to alienate us and our campaigns from the general public.
It’s all because we don’t have organization, and leadership. Without that, we cannot fight no matter what the subject. We are sticking our necks out for nothing, and earn nothing but grief that ultimately stems from those that want to prevent change, as they manipulate us all, with no one to direct our efforts in an organized credible fashion. Step 1 is to organize, and amongst other things find popular reform minded leadership.
OMG, the right wingers were right. Once Mamdani was elected, the city got filled with snowflakes!
smh
