• Shihali@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      What language do those deaf dyslexics read? Could they speak it before going deaf? Is it their first language or a second language after a sign language?

      I can’t think of a comparable situation elsewhere in the world for hearing people. The closest that comes to mind is learning Classical Chinese in ancient Korea or Japan or ancient and medieval Vietnam, but nowadays all those countries have good phonetic writing systems and still don’t expect everyone to learn Classical Chinese.

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        2 months ago

        Sign language first. Written language (Dutch) second. The ones I happen to know cannot speak Dutch at all. They’re pure sign language users. They’re all born deaf.

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          2 months ago

          That’s interesting. Since they were born deaf and can’t speak Dutch, do they act like they’re memorizing words as if they were hieroglyphs?

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            2 months ago

            Not sure. I know one of them fairly well, and he has the tendency to swap letters around. So can we go watch a fun movie on a VDV, and he could also copy a DC for me… Those particular words being finger spelled.

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              2 months ago

              I think a specialist would be interested. I don’t know enough about dyslexia to make a sound guess as to whether this is more like hearing-people dyslexia or character amnesia.

              Character amnesia (forgetting how to write Chinese characters, often ones you can recognize without trouble) for me shows up as forgetting components or slightly misremembering them, as if I couldn’t quite remember whether it was “CD” or “CP” or “CO”, or if it was a “DVD” or a “DVV”.

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                2 months ago

                Well, he does have the right letters. Just the order might be random sometimes. 😅 I agree, it would be an interesting case.

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      An interesting concept I haven’t thought about. I can’t imagine what it’s like to not have an auditory representation of the words I’m reading. Maybe the idea of the article is salvageable if you consider “matching characters” to the elements of language, like matching the letters u and n to the idea of “negation”. Though I don’t know how that would hold up when words aren’t made up of individual, meaningful constituents.