Are people locked in an isolated box without access to their medications? Yes.
We closed all the mental asylums and people who need help often end up in prison, and then they piss off guards and get locked in a solitary confinement
Itās normal not to mean it happens to a lot of people, but itās basically always happening to someone. Itās normalized. The people donāt care. Occasionally a journalist will report on it or a politician will mention fixing the death rate of a prison, but itās all just posturing
I had no trouble believing you, because it lines up with everything I know about the psychology of prisons. Iāve seen pictures like yours before, usually in English obviously
Do you not understand the gap between āno one believes it happenedā and āno one cares enough to do anything about itā?
Jesus youāre stupid. I keep telling you youāre wrong, and why. Then you just pretend you didnāt hear it, that none of the inane silly bullshit you said was as inane as it actually was.
You understand significantly less than you think you do, and I understand significantly more than youāre even capable of understanding. Youāve shown that again and again and again, also while literally pretending like the experience I went through is something normal in the US. And you donāt base that off of ANYTHING other than your childish avoidance of admitting your ignorance.
Iāve seen this act literally thousands and thousands of time this will end with you spamming one liners and writing things like āoh you think Iām gonna read all thatā while still pretending you understand better than I do, when pinƤ et suhu sedes uomeakaan.
Where were you when the second plane hit? What were you doing and thinking?
Iāve also kept it from the conversation this far to make you seem more ridiculous. Have you ever been to Finland? Have you ever even been in Europe, or even just out of the country?
Do you have Finnish relatives youāve been mailing and seeing since you were a kid? No?
Have you ever been in prison?
Again no.
Time and time again you show your ignorance yet think itās somehow better than my actual knowledge. This is why Trump won. Youāre so easily misled by utterly shit rhetoric because you literally donāt even have literacy to understand the BS youāre spouting.
Remember that Iām choosing this language because *YOU" donāt speak any others. Hell, youāre probably not even functionally literate in English either, seems like.
Holy fuck youāre pretentious. And no, English is not my only language, Iām well traveled and Iāve lived abroad.
You. Donāt. Understand. America.
You know things lots of things about it. That isnāt the same thing. Youāre not even very informed about life here, youāve latched onto strange details from media and totally missed the kind of sociological analysis youād need to begin to compare it to life in Finland
America is an escapist fantasy for you, itās a place where you lived a different life, where you were recognized as extra special and your childhood wasnāt painful
Itās not a real place to you. Itās an emotion
Youāre just like those weeaboos who move to Japan thinking it would be like an anime
I havenāt claimed that you donāt speak but a single language. I implied as much, and you got all bent out of shape that you know more languages. Again comparing, when the comparison is not even remotely close.
I imagine, (and again, imagining something doesnāt mean asserting it) that your second language skills are comparable to my Swedish or German. That is I can do customer service in Swedish but not hold a long conversation, and could perhaps order for myself in German, but not actually work with the language.
But I speak English fluently. Hell, arguably better than my native language. I for sure have a wider vocabulary in English, as thatās just the nature of the language, as English has more than a million words but Finnish some 100 000 and my English vocabulary exceeds 100k as per the test I previously mentioned.
You keep saying I donāt understand, but not accepting or admitting what you fail to understand.
Youāre not even very informed about life here
Again, pulling shit out of your arse, just because.
Just because you donāt like admitting that you might have a poorer understanding than someone else. I may be wrong, but i would bet my left testicle that we could get tested by clinical psychologists and linguists and I have a wider understanding of US and English (+my native language and knowledge) than you do of the US and English against any given other country.
Where have you lived for, how long, what language do you speak as fluently as English? (Although your reading comprehension in English could use a bit of improving.)
So, based on *what" exactly do you think Iām not very informed? Specifically, that is?
onto strange details
See this is what I meant with your literacy. I speak your naive language better than you, lol, and you canāt accept I can understand the basics of the secret society that is 'Murica.
detail
/ĖdiĖteÉŖl/
noun
1.
an individual fact or item.
Iāve literally prattled on a list about the general and largest problems in the US. Literally the opposite of ādetailsā.
America is an escapist fantasy for you,
I wouldnāt fucking set foot in the US even if you paid me ten thousand dollars. Literally. I would not. I wouldnāt risk it. A million or a couple and weāre talking.
Just because I understand things which are better in the US doesnāt mean I think the US is better to live in. Iāve kept this the whole time, yet you keep insisting āyou donāt understandā, when you canāt point to anything in detail which I donāt understand and whilst constantly telling you Iāve been extremely critical of the US for the past 25 years.
Speaking ofā¦ you still havenāt answered where you were on 9/11? Iād argue if you canāt even remember that, you canāt understand America. /s
I donāt actually argue that. But I definitely could if I were to argue as badly as you. Because betting that youāre under, idk, 30 isnāt really a huge bet. I accept I can be completely wrong and youāve just ignored on accident, but itās also likely youāre in your twenties and literally weāre a baby/didnāt exist when 9/11 happened. But I wonāt. Since itād be silly of me to assert what you know or donāt.
Youāll notice I still havenāt even asserted you donāt understand Finland properly. Iāve said I imagine you donāt, and that you clearly donāt understand that you donāt understand that I do understand. You canāt possibly understand what I understand or not. Just like I canāt understand what you understand completely either, as reading minds isnāt a thing. You can assume thoughts though. You havenāt. You just keep screeching āyou donāt understandā without being able to point to the ādetailsā you pretend I ālatch ontoā.
Your image of Finland is much more of a fantasy than my idea of the US, thats clear enough.
Itās getting to the bit where youāre gonna get so mad that deluding yourself wonāt work anymore.
Jesus Christā¦ Youāre a piece of work. I didnāt feel a need to defend my understanding of language until you slipped in jabs multiple times. Because my ideas stand for themselves
Youāll notice I still havenāt even asserted you donāt understand Finland properly. Iāve said I imagine you donāt, and that you clearly donāt understand that you donāt understand that I do understand. You canāt possibly understand what I understand or not. Just like I canāt understand what you understand completely either, as reading minds isnāt a thing. You can assume thoughts though. You havenāt. You just keep screeching āyou donāt understandā without being able to point to the ādetailsā you pretend I ālatch ontoā.
Iāve said multiple times. I DONāT UNDERSTAND WHAT ITāS LIKE TO LIVE IN FINLAND. It would be insanely arrogant to claim otherwise, and not once in my life have I done so. Iāve had online friends who live there, my step dad has gone there at least once a year for like 40 yearsā¦I know plenty about your culture. But Iāve never experienced it
And itās equally arrogant to think you understand my country.
But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless peopleā¦ Iāve given them rides. Iāve never thought of a program to do so, not out of lack of compassion, but because the Nordic countries have a better attitude towards the homeless and social programs. Thatās exactly what I want for my country. Thatās what Iām pointing at.
And of course you know more words in English. All languages have a speed at which they are spoken, and a set of vocabulary. All human languages have about the same information density, English has one of the largest vocabularies. I find Spanish poetry amusing, because of how it doesnāt translate wellā¦ It has one of the smallest vocabularies and highest words per minute
As for detailsā¦ Whatās your obsession with skipping grades? Thatās not a real thing. We have magnet schools and gifted programsā¦ Skipping grades is basically not a thing. It causes socialization problems. I slept through my classes through college, because I was bored.
You barely understand America at a surface level. I say that purely out of your weird beliefs. You talk like an America-phile, fetishizing my county with little understanding of how any of it works.
The smartest thing youāve said is that youād never come here. Because with your history with weed, youād be locked in a box until they deported you. And I think thatās horrible.
No, you donāt, and unlike me, youāre unwilling to learn. Iāve been trying to teach you the difference, but you just keep saying I canāt possibly understand. You canāt reason that in any way, yet you assert it.
Iāve told you how those systems and laws you admire donāt work here. Iāve told you the extent to which Iāve chased these things and Iām telling you, the pathological avoidance is nation-wide. In the US, lawyers can actually profit from suing the state, so IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. Not to everyone, not all the time, not even remotely. But like with āwhole grades accelerationā, IT ACTUALLY DOES EXIST AND HAS MOTIVATIONS FOR WHY PEOPLE WOULD DO IT.
One course in law I took had the professor tell us how all of us probably had assumptions based on having seen so American TV. And we did. Suing is completely different. Justice systems are completely different, down to the core.
Can you even tell the key differences between common law and civil law systems without Googling?
Iāve never thought of a program to do so, not out of lack of compassion
There isnāt one. Youāre making shitty assumptions, yet again. I could explain why I was driving around drunks and homeless people, despite them not getting driven around because theyāre homeless and/or drunks. But did you ask? No. You make shitty assumptions about some cloud cuckoo land where people donāt frown the homeless or substance abusers. Itās fantasy.
Nordic countries have a better attitude towards the homeless and social programs
Again, you simply display your ignorance.
If youāre in New York and laying on the street, no-one will stop, ānot my problemā theyāll think. In rural Kansas though, in a small village where eveyone know each other, they probably would. Itās called āthe bystander effectā. And social programs can do that to whole nations. You simply arenāt willing to open your mind to the possibility that someone thinks so differently from you that you canāt understand it.
And because at the same time I assert that it doesnāt work the other way around, because I do understand the American frame of mind, I understand them both, you get all mad and start having a tantrum.
Despite the simple fact that I could pass for an American easily and could pass American citizenship test but you wouldnāt even be able to take the Finnish citizenship test and even if they allowed you to take it English, you wouldnāt pass.
And of course you know more words in English
Why of course? Because while English has a wider vocabulary, it doesnāt have more words, simply because of the agglutinative nature of Finnish multiplies the amount of words. But just like with every other mistake, youāll just stop caring about that and wonāt be able to address the fact that you were actually wrong about something.
Here, conjugating āa dogā
But you simply canāt accept the fact that I have a viewpoint which is wider than yours. Not in life in general, but for the differences in Finnish and American cultures and society, most definitely
God, youāre a fucking retard. Iāve had deeper conversations with people with extra chromosomes.
And Iām not being sarcastic, I genuinely have. Theyāre delightful people who only engage in good faith. Theyāre joyful, I still donāt understand what you stand for
See, just like I said; your replies are devolving and youāll give in before admitting to having made a single wrong assumption. Yet you insist it is I who ājust doesnāt understand.ā Before long youāll be replying with āyou think Iām gonna read all thatā or ālol, kā or something to that extent, because you simply canāt acknowledge having been wrong.
This is just about your ego. If you had a healthy one, you could actually admit that yeah, I do understand American culture and society and that you were wrong to assume that my notions of the US are somehow fantasies, and that I wouldnāt pass the citizenship test. I clearly would.
You just canāt accept thereās an asynchronicity between America and Finland that means that I understand you more than you do Finland.
The word youāre looking for is āannoyingā, by the way. Not āfucking retardedā. I know that Iāve āwonā whenever the replies begin starting like that. Youāre getting super emotional, and that means Iāve done what I set out to do. Which isnāt to āwinā a conversation, as I donāt see it as a competition, but as you do, you have to āget the last wordā so you canāt just stop replying. But you canāt address any of the things said either, because I proved you wrong in them. You just keep avoiding more and more and more and saying less and less and less. Iāve seen this a thousand times. Literally. No exaggeration.
I engage in good faith. You do not.
Thatās why I can point to any part of the conversation, while you have to desperately avoid that I do in fact understand American society and culture. Thatās why you wonāt answer where you were on 9/11. Thatās why you wonāt answer my rhetorical point about a person ānot being able to understand America if they canāt remember where they were on 9/11ā and thatās why you probably got so mad about it, because Iām guessing you either had a tit in your mouth or didnāt even exist. Thatās why you have to keep avoiding the simple fact that thereās an asynchronicity between how much people understand the US and how much they understand Finland. And that your notions of Finland are indeed from articles reading āFinland is the happiest country in the worldā over and over and over again. Thatās why you have to avoid continuing to pretend like you understand our laws and programs, when you continue to prove you do not. We donāt drive around homeless people in taxis because theyāre homeless people. Yet you think we do. You think Finland is some holy paradise in which the lowest of the low in society get treated with nothing but kindness and respect and that everyone helps them and values them as members of societyā¦ and then you have the gall to call me delusional. :DD
Are people locked in an isolated box without access to their medications? Yes.
We closed all the mental asylums and people who need help often end up in prison, and then they piss off guards and get locked in a solitary confinement
Itās normal not to mean it happens to a lot of people, but itās basically always happening to someone. Itās normalized. The people donāt care. Occasionally a journalist will report on it or a politician will mention fixing the death rate of a prison, but itās all just posturing
I had no trouble believing you, because it lines up with everything I know about the psychology of prisons. Iāve seen pictures like yours before, usually in English obviously
Do you not understand the gap between āno one believes it happenedā and āno one cares enough to do anything about itā?
Jesus youāre stupid. I keep telling you youāre wrong, and why. Then you just pretend you didnāt hear it, that none of the inane silly bullshit you said was as inane as it actually was.
You understand significantly less than you think you do, and I understand significantly more than youāre even capable of understanding. Youāve shown that again and again and again, also while literally pretending like the experience I went through is something normal in the US. And you donāt base that off of ANYTHING other than your childish avoidance of admitting your ignorance.
Iāve seen this act literally thousands and thousands of time this will end with you spamming one liners and writing things like āoh you think Iām gonna read all thatā while still pretending you understand better than I do, when pinƤ et suhu sedes uomeakaan.
Where were you when the second plane hit? What were you doing and thinking?
Iāve also kept it from the conversation this far to make you seem more ridiculous. Have you ever been to Finland? Have you ever even been in Europe, or even just out of the country?
Do you have Finnish relatives youāve been mailing and seeing since you were a kid? No?
Have you ever been in prison?
Again no.
Time and time again you show your ignorance yet think itās somehow better than my actual knowledge. This is why Trump won. Youāre so easily misled by utterly shit rhetoric because you literally donāt even have literacy to understand the BS youāre spouting.
Remember that Iām choosing this language because *YOU" donāt speak any others. Hell, youāre probably not even functionally literate in English either, seems like.
Holy fuck youāre pretentious. And no, English is not my only language, Iām well traveled and Iāve lived abroad.
You. Donāt. Understand. America.
You know things lots of things about it. That isnāt the same thing. Youāre not even very informed about life here, youāve latched onto strange details from media and totally missed the kind of sociological analysis youād need to begin to compare it to life in Finland
America is an escapist fantasy for you, itās a place where you lived a different life, where you were recognized as extra special and your childhood wasnāt painful
Itās not a real place to you. Itās an emotion
Youāre just like those weeaboos who move to Japan thinking it would be like an anime
I havenāt claimed that you donāt speak but a single language. I implied as much, and you got all bent out of shape that you know more languages. Again comparing, when the comparison is not even remotely close.
I imagine, (and again, imagining something doesnāt mean asserting it) that your second language skills are comparable to my Swedish or German. That is I can do customer service in Swedish but not hold a long conversation, and could perhaps order for myself in German, but not actually work with the language.
But I speak English fluently. Hell, arguably better than my native language. I for sure have a wider vocabulary in English, as thatās just the nature of the language, as English has more than a million words but Finnish some 100 000 and my English vocabulary exceeds 100k as per the test I previously mentioned.
You keep saying I donāt understand, but not accepting or admitting what you fail to understand.
Again, pulling shit out of your arse, just because.
Just because you donāt like admitting that you might have a poorer understanding than someone else. I may be wrong, but i would bet my left testicle that we could get tested by clinical psychologists and linguists and I have a wider understanding of US and English (+my native language and knowledge) than you do of the US and English against any given other country.
Where have you lived for, how long, what language do you speak as fluently as English? (Although your reading comprehension in English could use a bit of improving.)
So, based on *what" exactly do you think Iām not very informed? Specifically, that is?
See this is what I meant with your literacy. I speak your naive language better than you, lol, and you canāt accept I can understand the basics of the secret society that is 'Murica.
detail /ĖdiĖteÉŖl/ noun
Iāve literally prattled on a list about the general and largest problems in the US. Literally the opposite of ādetailsā.
I wouldnāt fucking set foot in the US even if you paid me ten thousand dollars. Literally. I would not. I wouldnāt risk it. A million or a couple and weāre talking.
Just because I understand things which are better in the US doesnāt mean I think the US is better to live in. Iāve kept this the whole time, yet you keep insisting āyou donāt understandā, when you canāt point to anything in detail which I donāt understand and whilst constantly telling you Iāve been extremely critical of the US for the past 25 years.
Speaking ofā¦ you still havenāt answered where you were on 9/11? Iād argue if you canāt even remember that, you canāt understand America. /s
I donāt actually argue that. But I definitely could if I were to argue as badly as you. Because betting that youāre under, idk, 30 isnāt really a huge bet. I accept I can be completely wrong and youāve just ignored on accident, but itās also likely youāre in your twenties and literally weāre a baby/didnāt exist when 9/11 happened. But I wonāt. Since itād be silly of me to assert what you know or donāt.
Youāll notice I still havenāt even asserted you donāt understand Finland properly. Iāve said I imagine you donāt, and that you clearly donāt understand that you donāt understand that I do understand. You canāt possibly understand what I understand or not. Just like I canāt understand what you understand completely either, as reading minds isnāt a thing. You can assume thoughts though. You havenāt. You just keep screeching āyou donāt understandā without being able to point to the ādetailsā you pretend I ālatch ontoā.
Your image of Finland is much more of a fantasy than my idea of the US, thats clear enough.
Itās getting to the bit where youāre gonna get so mad that deluding yourself wonāt work anymore.
Jesus Christā¦ Youāre a piece of work. I didnāt feel a need to defend my understanding of language until you slipped in jabs multiple times. Because my ideas stand for themselves
Iāve said multiple times. I DONāT UNDERSTAND WHAT ITāS LIKE TO LIVE IN FINLAND. It would be insanely arrogant to claim otherwise, and not once in my life have I done so. Iāve had online friends who live there, my step dad has gone there at least once a year for like 40 yearsā¦I know plenty about your culture. But Iāve never experienced it
And itās equally arrogant to think you understand my country.
But I do know your laws and outcome statistics. I know which laws and programs I want for my country. Like driving around homeless peopleā¦ Iāve given them rides. Iāve never thought of a program to do so, not out of lack of compassion, but because the Nordic countries have a better attitude towards the homeless and social programs. Thatās exactly what I want for my country. Thatās what Iām pointing at.
And of course you know more words in English. All languages have a speed at which they are spoken, and a set of vocabulary. All human languages have about the same information density, English has one of the largest vocabularies. I find Spanish poetry amusing, because of how it doesnāt translate wellā¦ It has one of the smallest vocabularies and highest words per minute
As for detailsā¦ Whatās your obsession with skipping grades? Thatās not a real thing. We have magnet schools and gifted programsā¦ Skipping grades is basically not a thing. It causes socialization problems. I slept through my classes through college, because I was bored.
You barely understand America at a surface level. I say that purely out of your weird beliefs. You talk like an America-phile, fetishizing my county with little understanding of how any of it works.
The smartest thing youāve said is that youād never come here. Because with your history with weed, youād be locked in a box until they deported you. And I think thatās horrible.
No, you donāt, and unlike me, youāre unwilling to learn. Iāve been trying to teach you the difference, but you just keep saying I canāt possibly understand. You canāt reason that in any way, yet you assert it.
Iāve told you how those systems and laws you admire donāt work here. Iāve told you the extent to which Iāve chased these things and Iām telling you, the pathological avoidance is nation-wide. In the US, lawyers can actually profit from suing the state, so IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. Not to everyone, not all the time, not even remotely. But like with āwhole grades accelerationā, IT ACTUALLY DOES EXIST AND HAS MOTIVATIONS FOR WHY PEOPLE WOULD DO IT.
One course in law I took had the professor tell us how all of us probably had assumptions based on having seen so American TV. And we did. Suing is completely different. Justice systems are completely different, down to the core.
Can you even tell the key differences between common law and civil law systems without Googling?
There isnāt one. Youāre making shitty assumptions, yet again. I could explain why I was driving around drunks and homeless people, despite them not getting driven around because theyāre homeless and/or drunks. But did you ask? No. You make shitty assumptions about some cloud cuckoo land where people donāt frown the homeless or substance abusers. Itās fantasy.
Again, you simply display your ignorance.
If youāre in New York and laying on the street, no-one will stop, ānot my problemā theyāll think. In rural Kansas though, in a small village where eveyone know each other, they probably would. Itās called āthe bystander effectā. And social programs can do that to whole nations. You simply arenāt willing to open your mind to the possibility that someone thinks so differently from you that you canāt understand it.
And because at the same time I assert that it doesnāt work the other way around, because I do understand the American frame of mind, I understand them both, you get all mad and start having a tantrum.
Despite the simple fact that I could pass for an American easily and could pass American citizenship test but you wouldnāt even be able to take the Finnish citizenship test and even if they allowed you to take it English, you wouldnāt pass.
Why of course? Because while English has a wider vocabulary, it doesnāt have more words, simply because of the agglutinative nature of Finnish multiplies the amount of words. But just like with every other mistake, youāll just stop caring about that and wonāt be able to address the fact that you were actually wrong about something.
Here, conjugating āa dogā
But you simply canāt accept the fact that I have a viewpoint which is wider than yours. Not in life in general, but for the differences in Finnish and American cultures and society, most definitely
God, youāre a fucking retard. Iāve had deeper conversations with people with extra chromosomes.
And Iām not being sarcastic, I genuinely have. Theyāre delightful people who only engage in good faith. Theyāre joyful, I still donāt understand what you stand for
See, just like I said; your replies are devolving and youāll give in before admitting to having made a single wrong assumption. Yet you insist it is I who ājust doesnāt understand.ā Before long youāll be replying with āyou think Iām gonna read all thatā or ālol, kā or something to that extent, because you simply canāt acknowledge having been wrong.
This is just about your ego. If you had a healthy one, you could actually admit that yeah, I do understand American culture and society and that you were wrong to assume that my notions of the US are somehow fantasies, and that I wouldnāt pass the citizenship test. I clearly would.
You just canāt accept thereās an asynchronicity between America and Finland that means that I understand you more than you do Finland.
The word youāre looking for is āannoyingā, by the way. Not āfucking retardedā. I know that Iāve āwonā whenever the replies begin starting like that. Youāre getting super emotional, and that means Iāve done what I set out to do. Which isnāt to āwinā a conversation, as I donāt see it as a competition, but as you do, you have to āget the last wordā so you canāt just stop replying. But you canāt address any of the things said either, because I proved you wrong in them. You just keep avoiding more and more and more and saying less and less and less. Iāve seen this a thousand times. Literally. No exaggeration.
I engage in good faith. You do not.
Thatās why I can point to any part of the conversation, while you have to desperately avoid that I do in fact understand American society and culture. Thatās why you wonāt answer where you were on 9/11. Thatās why you wonāt answer my rhetorical point about a person ānot being able to understand America if they canāt remember where they were on 9/11ā and thatās why you probably got so mad about it, because Iām guessing you either had a tit in your mouth or didnāt even exist. Thatās why you have to keep avoiding the simple fact that thereās an asynchronicity between how much people understand the US and how much they understand Finland. And that your notions of Finland are indeed from articles reading āFinland is the happiest country in the worldā over and over and over again. Thatās why you have to avoid continuing to pretend like you understand our laws and programs, when you continue to prove you do not. We donāt drive around homeless people in taxis because theyāre homeless people. Yet you think we do. You think Finland is some holy paradise in which the lowest of the low in society get treated with nothing but kindness and respect and that everyone helps them and values them as members of societyā¦ and then you have the gall to call me delusional. :DD
Jesus Christ, youāre actually 14ā¦
Have you made a point in all of this? Youāve passionately expressed your feelings plenty
Me: I want to adopt aspects of the Nordic model
You: BUH BUH BUH I experienced police brutality and Iām from there!
Me: Yes, yes, police brutality is bad. But anywaysā¦
You: You only speak English and I could pass your citizenship test!
Me: What?
You: Yes, Iāve watched all the movies! I know America! I am wolverine!
Me: (patiently) you know movies and reality are different, right?
You: I KNOW AMERICA! BETTER THAN YOU EVEN!