Democracy works, but voting is a tiny fraction part of democracy. Unions, free speech, liberated media is what makes democracy important, and guess what. We don’t have liberated media, free speech, and even unions anymore and we still think voting is important. It is not! It even makes everything worse for the people. We are postponing our problems to elections and we blame people who vote, for the evil things that political people make.
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I don’t understand, Trump is heading us back, he came with voting, and you say voting keeps him out of office. He literally came there by voting. You are telling me, voting prevents fascism, while voting takes them to the power. I really don’t understand.
Solidarity, unions keep them out of office, while voting is what makes them be in power.
Working class didn’t gain rights by voting obviously. They got it by striking, by stopping working, by solidarity, by unions. I don’t think voting has more effects than 5%, if we include everything they made. We give too much importance to voting. It actually matters so little
You are using oxygen very well, so you elected Trump. That’s great. Bravo!
Did I tell you do nthing? I told you to stop voting and actually do something. You are telling me, no we need to vote lolAnd what will that do? It will do 1000X more things than voting and thinking you are changing something lol
sahin@lemmy.worldOPto
Unpopular Opinion@lemmy.world•Media Power Can Make People Elect A MonkeyEnglish
3·9 hours agoApe
I dont need help, but you need. I still dont understand how you think your vote matters.
It is so easy to elect anyone you want:
Check survey results Increase propaganda
Lie about the other candidate Lobby and bribe
Use social media, TV, newspapers to increase popularity of your candidate
Tell the other candidate is t.rrorist, scare people, increase division within community, make people fight each other.
Check survey results again, and make sure you win by a little more votes, so that people will fight each other.
Tell people every vote matters, make them think voting works.
Give money to popular people in social media to tell people vote for you.
It is so easy.Give me 100B dollars, I can elect whoever/whatever one wants, while you still think your vote matters.
Okay, see you in the next elections while you cry you lost, thinking people were stupid but the problem is media is too powerful. Even if you win in the elections, you will still cry, dont worry. Nobody in politics is trying to improve your life.
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News@lemmy.world•British Woman shot by dad in Texas after 'arguing about Donald Trump'
1·11 hours agoIf they are eager to hear you, you can obviously talk to them, but when it becomes a fight, it will just be a waste of time.
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News@lemmy.world•British Woman shot by dad in Texas after 'arguing about Donald Trump'
1·12 hours agoYou are right dude, but it is hard to give that advice randomly. This topic is a little bit related. And I got into physical conflict with my mom because of the same reason.
So, this is a big conflict, but it shows the tip of the iceberg
My vote has no effects, your vote has no effects. You get the propaganda from TV, social media, billboards and you think you are choosing the leader, but they actually choose the one they want by making you vote for them.
If you are a political candidate, you need zero talent, all you need is media. Give me media power, and I can make people choose a monkey.
Less shitty one is the same, it just seems to be less shitty. They are played by the same guys. Even if they are not currently played, they will be played. Do not except anything from politics. Create a solidarity, boycott everything, go on strike.
So, voting makes you think something will change and postpones everything.
sahin@lemmy.worldto
News@lemmy.world•British Woman shot by dad in Texas after 'arguing about Donald Trump'
419·14 hours agoDo not argue about politics with the people you are close. It is hard to change their mind, and conflicts happen. Argue with the people that you dont care.
You still think Kamala and Trump are in different teams. You still think Trump decides what America does. Let me tell you what would happen if Kamala wins: they would do the same things, people would say “if Trump won, this wouldn’t happen” and you would still fight people online, rather than planning a strike while they do whatever they want with the power.
You are the reason Trump is in power, because you believe in democracy and they give you two shitty options and you think this makes sense. You are illiterate. You think this stupid way of choosing a leader is a good way lol
So what? What changed? Nothing! They already knew who would win, they already planned for the other case. What would happen when Kamala wins? Free home? No! Free food? No! Would they not enter Venezuela? Of course they would! You think you are smarter than them, but they already bought all your choices
Your vote doesn’t matter. They already know the result of the election beforehand. It is not hard
They wont care. The best thing you can do, is buy local, share local, create the local economy. This will be a constant problem for them. While they can blame you for everything when you stop working for a few days.
It is impossible for most people to be homeless. Will the houses stay empty? Will the people look at their friends and allow them to stay in the streets?
They’d be replaced, which changes nothing then.
Do not do anything individually of course, but waiting for elections to change something doesnt work. They are just delaying everything until the next elections.
This is really dumb, and yes they do this intentionally
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I don’t get it, you think unions and voting are tightly coupled or something? Trump won, let’s stop unions? Kamala won, let’s recreate unions hurray!
One success of voting might be Mamdani, but he still doesn’t talk about wealth tax, he still will not improve your lives either. We will see. Only people can make a change, no politician will care about you, unless you are lucky.