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Cake day: February 12th, 2026

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  • Let’s not give it to them freely though. If they’re going to lie, make them lie, don’t let it be the truth, it makes their position a lot weaker. There is still hope we can stop them. The fact they want ICE around the polls for intimidation means they’re worried about us voting, it’s not over yet. They don’t have all the power


  • In part I was responding to the thread as a whole, not just you so sorry for any confusion. You’re right, Mandela was saying that only after a certain point a few more extreme measures were required. I just don’t want people playing into the hand of the current administration. If they have to lie about what the protesters are doing then their position is a lot weaker than it would be telling the truth. Yes they’ll try and spin the narrative, but we’ve got a better shot not freely giving it to them





  • You cannot deny that Ghandi was effective in ending British oppression in India and that Mandela was effective in ending apartheid in South Africa and that MLK was effective in winning civil rights in the US through means of nonviolent civil disobedience. It’s like you’re arguing that if you’re not being violent then you’re doing nothing. Our rights have whittled away over the last 50 years because the masses have been complacent and allowed it to happen. That has nothing to do with violence or nonviolence even. It has to do with people being apathetic. Now that things are coming to a head we stand to gain more support from the masses through non violent civil disobedience. Just because you are not throwing bricks does not mean you aren’t stopping the powerful from doing as they please




  • You are right! We ARE long past the point of excuses. We NEED TO PROTEST. The people still haven’t taken to the street in mass though. The point is we make it harder to convince more and more people to join in and give their support if we turn violent. We have to win the hearts and minds of an apathetic population that has allowed this to happen in the first place. We gain nothing but more justification from the government to shut us down if we turn to rioting


  • We still have to get out and take to the streets, we have to be disobedient, but we cannot turn violent. You’re ceding them the power that there’s no point if they’ll do what the want anyway, but the reality is that if we keep sustained peaceful protest we’ll get too much support from the rest of the country for them to continue. If we turn violent the “nonpolitical folk” will be able to keep their heads in the sand longer


  • There were far more ICE agents deployed in Minneapolis than there were in Portland. Why was the image of the self immolating monk so powerful in protest to the Vietnam war? Malcom X’s ideology actually softened over the years before he was killed, he even saw that all out violence is not the answer. Peaceful protest is the only way this ends well for any of us