I’ll be honest, I never thought you were a troll. But people might think you are because you seem to a lot of trouble finding information on your own without asking another human for help, while being quite active here, and your comments are always short, from what I’ve seen of them. Disclaimer: I never stalked your profile to see everything, but I do see you around a lot just by naturally using the Fediverse.

The content/users aren’t here so I’m stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.

Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

Although I understand it’s not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;

My concern is because regardless of what communities I can access, Mbin is so tiny compared to Lemmy that I feel a bit bad abandoning the less-used Fediverse platform. One less not-Lemmy user, even if I still prop up the same communities with my activities. Well, I’d still be a not-Lemmy user, but I guess one less Mbin user, which I feel could use all the help it can get.

Happy with my current instance, but the urge to try out PieFed grows… would probably mean abandoning Mbin though and Mbin is already so tiny compared to Lemmy…

It’s happened before in general, though I cannot remember specific instances. As for Fediverse apps, I do have one for Matrix because I think you actually cannot use that on mobile without an app. Every time I try to open a Matrix link on mobile it tells me to pick an app. For Mbin and Lemmy, I do not need an app because I’m already having a good experience on the browser. Little to no friction or complaints. I also don’t feel I need anything more, so I don’t want to sink that minimal effort into finding and trying an app. The post that came out talking about a lot of apps not displaying Markdown correctly further discourages me, as I don’t want to track it down to find which ones do, and one of the things few apps show correctly is spoiler formatting which I use.

I see it can be about accessibility and solving usability issues on the browser now, which of course will be different for different people. Thanks for discussing with me :)

Thank you for explaining!

In my experience Reddit had to be used with an app if not on desktop, but the Fediverse on mobile feels like the Reddit app (I’m one of the few people who never had trouble with the official app, it was functional for me, so this is not meant as an insult at all. I left and came here over the API stuff only) so I have no need to switch. Much more mobile-friendly. Using the Fediverse on desktop feels a lot like the mobile experience but wider.

Not sent to other instances? I am on Mbin and see downvotes.

I understand that. I want to know specifically what attracts these people with different tastes to an app, and what makes them not want to use it in the browser. I generally don’t judge on taste but I do get curious about why peoples’ tastes are what they are.

I agree very much about Subscribing vs. All.

I hear about the lemmy.ml drama on Fediverse but my actual experience is no drama and I do not 100% know what is happening.

I also put my head in the sand and only look at my Subscribed, which includes zero politics or “this company did this awful thing”-style depressing news as I’m oversensitive and too prone to doomscrolling. I stay informed somewhere else, not on the Fediverse where people can put so many understandably upset comments that encourage me to doomscroll. And I’d imagine those types of posts, which I know to be prevalent on Local or All, attract comments from people with strong political views, which is probably part of the lemmy.ml drama. I could probably block all the politics posts with a couple community blocks, but not the miseryposting (understandable, people want to vent or post an on-topic news article, I just cannot handle it personally without doomscrolling more things like it) that attracts “and this problem was caused because of [insert politics here]” replies—so many communities are appropriate places to post news that happens to be sad, or a meme about how much your life sucks.

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I have asked before and I am curious. I do not mean this to crap on people who want an app but I wonder why an app is a desired thing. I use Mbin and Lemmy on mobile completely through my browser and I’m having a good time with both.

Oh, that’s true, good point. My thinking is that the Fediverse is small and some players do convert to trying to dev themselves.

You might also want to advertise this in the Visual Novel communities on the Fediverse!

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Just in case you mean by “to get you started” that no posts are showing—you might want to check straight at https://kbin.run/m/otomegames. If nobody has subscribed to this community/magazine from your instance before, it’ll either appear totally empty, or it’ll only show a few posts, not sure which, when viewed from your instance, regardless of how many posts the community/magazine has. (If it was subscribed to by at least one person on your instance, and then at some point in time later nobody on your instance subscribes to it, it’ll stop receiving any updates until at least one person subscribes again. The posts from the period when nobody subscribed will be missing.)

!automation_games@feddit.de. Desperately needs more posts than just Factorio. I am sadly unqualified for that as I am very interested in the genre but have not yet actually played games in it yet.

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Have been meaning to watch Frieren after I saw a comment on a Dungeons and Dragons subreddit awhile back. The conversation was about the fantasy trope of elves being isolationist and sticking to their own. Someone gave a nicely-written explanation of how you could run that in your game as being because everyone else lives shorter lives than them, that it’s a phase in most elves’ lives where they say they’ll never be like their elder elves and they go adventuring, and then their friends die before them and they are heartbroken, and they go back to their walled elven communities because “what elf could bear that loss ten times over?” or some other closing line that hit the spot. The reply said Frieren was basically about that. Also have been meaning to watch Spy x Family!

About cute girls doing cute things: slice of life and themes of friendship are gender neutral. Men might fantasize about being with them: no significant male characters to threaten the fantasy, not even a “self-insert” MC who might not actually be relatable to the particular man. But what I think less people realize is that for women, it’s a female-dominated show, and there are no important men, so naturally the girls talk to each other about doing things unrelated to men. In other words, shows in that genre are nigh-on guaranteed to pass the Bechdel test. I’m a woman who watches cute girls doing cute things. I don’t spend much time thinking about the Bechdel test when consuming media, but I know other women do and I figure it’s a cool insight.

Honestly, I tell myself I play otome for the men, but really I get sucked in by the interesting premise or the main character’s personality or the main character being relatable to me somehow. From what I know of Variable Barricade, absolutely none of the guys appeal to me, but I want to play it anyways because of the tsundere MC and it being a dramedy. Playing My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom -Pirates of the Disturbance- and I’m only interested in 4 of the men, but because I’m enjoying the story/characters I’m going to play all 6 routes. If I get sucked in by a love interest it’s usually because I heard something about the way his route progresses, or he hits a particular character trope that I want to see in a love interest character that I rarely get to see in them. Although I do think part of the appeal for me is still romance—I consumed quite a lot of shipping fanfic up until a few years ago. For what it is worth I am attracted to men.

I really enjoy social interaction and relationship building mechanics in video games, and would love to see more games entirely focused around them, though with more mechanics than you see in visual novels. I also personally want to make a game some day about messing with them like a villain in a soap opera or teen drama, but I do not know if I’d actually commit to it, and I am definitely not looking forward to “so was she a bully in high school, or is she a bully victim looking to take the role of the oppressor?” questions asked in a similar vein to “so how many people have you killed?” questions for people who work on violent video games.

I also am enjoying this conversation! It feels like something that would not really be done on Reddit, but that is okay here. Or at least culture is not established enough here for anyone to tell us to stop and go away :P On Reddit I would have tried to take it to DMs and here, given issues with federation, theoretically I should be able to DM you from Mbin and you should be able to get it on Lemmy, but it might not work in practice.

Also, even with the owl stuff, there’s political crossover, where I get a bit angrier about loopholes in laws that destroy ecosystems and inaction to saving endangered animals.

That kind of politics is very likely to be nearly universally agreed with on an owl community… at least I think, so you’re probably safe.

I usually won’t stalk profiles, I really only do to check “are you for real or are you just trolling”, and now what with the Fediverse being a new thing I’ll sometimes check on people to see if they stopped commenting too.

I’m a bit oversensitive and politics gets a lot of engagement, naturally, and there are so many politics magazines or magazines that aren’t strictly politics but will post a political meme or about where inflammatory politics intersects with their usually non-political point of interest, and that’s so so so many to filter out that I just don’t trust I can look at All on my instance without seeing something enraging or “look how awful the world is today!” when I already know about that thing and don’t want to spend my time getting worked up over it yet again. I know it means I lose out on fun interactions like the ones you have, though, and that’s a tradeoff I take, especially since I supplement by subbing to !newcommunities@lemmy.world, and either that or Fedigrow has the active communities thread. I also used https://sub.rehab/ when first coming here from Reddit to replace all the subreddits I enjoyed, so I tried to hit all my interests I would be remotely interested in talking about online.

Yeah, given the games are visual novels and usually don’t have much gameplay besides that (there are stat raisers like the Tokimeki Memorial series, I’m not really personally interested in Anchored Hearts but am aware of it because it is supposed to have some gameplay beyond just usual visual novel making choices, Boyfriend Dungeon is hack-and-slash) they put a lot into story or characters in order to keep it engaging. As someone who started with more traditional gaming before I found otome games, I would love to see more otome that also includes more traditional gaming. Some of the otome isekai genre things I consumed (more detailed explanation of what otome isekai is here, but in short the name should tell it all: girl/woman isekais into an otome game) feature otome that also is a real RPG with levels and everything (off the top of my head, Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I’m Not the Demon Lord, Endo and Kobayashi Live! The Latest on Tsundere Villainess Lieselotte, definitely have the game in the story be an RPG otome, and I don’t recall what kind of genre The Most Heretical Last Boss Queen: From Villainess to Savior was but the title should tell you it definitely wasn’t just a visual novel) which, if it isn’t another misunderstanding of otome or artistic license being taken, implies that such games exist in Japan and just went unlocalized. But most otome are just straight up visual novels, so you have to sell them to us on the story, characters, and art only. Sometimes the music is really cool, but you don’t really sell an otome on its music. Even if it’s Band Camp Boyfriend. It’s pretty cool. I’ve seen that some men play otome for the story and/or the romance and I definitely welcome that and them.

Curious what anime you like, and if you’ve joined any anime communities on the Fediverse. Or on Mastodon. Thinking of finally trying Mastodon after a year being on Lemmy and Kbin only. (I know my account age has me starting in September, but I instance-hopped.) I think I remember people on Fedigrow talking about anime communities they set up.

I feel if it’s hot button issues like politics you might want to do a separation, but you’re otherwise good. Most people aren’t going to look at your other posts at all, just engage with you on the post you made and move on. However, there are people who, when arguing with someone else, often check the profile (sometimes a valid move: “this person seems to be using a dogwhistle, is it an overall innocent person using it because dogwhistles are designed to go over peoples’ heads and they don’t realize what they are saying, or are they subbed to proudracist@evil.social?” sometimes not a valid move, just someone looking to get nasty and personal and cast any aspersions possible regardless of how true they are).

I have several Fediverse accounts for different aspects of my life but it is because I just feel better and more anonymous that way. There are way fewer people into, say, the exact same combination of 10 interests than people who are into the same 2 interests. This is my gaming and animal account. I care about more things than that and it might bleed through in my posts (e.g. me knowing about PKMS and digital gardens) but at least it takes more effort to find that. More effort to cross-reference posts and figure out Elevator7009 is also ElevatorsAltAccount is also ElevatorsAltAccount2, and ElevatorsAltAccount2 says this personal anecdote happened to her which sounds just like the anecdote Jane from accounting, who is into the same things Elevator7009 and their alt accounts post about, told me yesterday… Yes, I’m a little nobody unlikely to get a weird stalker. I may have seen someone a little higher profile than me get doxxed with something like this as part of the method though, and sadly regular human nobodies also sometimes have to file harassment and stalking lawsuits, so… I am a bit paranoid.

What other things do you want to talk about? I may know some communities.

The plots can definitely be pretty wild and dramatic. Even Hatoful Boyfriend, a sort of satire/parody of the genre, gets that way. Although like any genre of fiction, we do have our subtropes/subgenres, we have our screwed up dark dramas and our lighthearted romps. If I recall correctly though, the darker stuff tends to get localized from Japan more often… I prefer more lighthearted stuff and often the OELVN (original English language visual novel) otome appeal to me more conceptually or through the personality of the main character, but I usually prefer the Japanese art even though most people making an otome, even in English, draw anime. Probably has to do with the Japanese ports having commercial artists and the English visual novels having indie devs and artists.

I also just came here to have fun. I feel because of the lack of algorithms pushing controversial content and engagement in general, I am actually enjoying my time here more than on any other social media besides Discord.

Oh goodness error pages I am so sorry. I heard we were having federation issues a bit earlier and I hope this gets resolved, I want to keep this community on kbin.run and make Kbin viable, keep the Fediverse diverse, instead of just shifting to Lemmy… Might need to go to Lemmy and check what things look like from that end.