I remember a promising study about Haskell as a first language several years ago. The much bigger problem is indeed documentation and building a curriculum for beginners than anything about the language itself (currying included – without background from another language you aren’t already stuck in the mental state of “every function is uncurried”).

Haskell is my favourite language and I like LYAH but at the end of the day OCaml infrastructure for beginners is just better. LearnOCaml in particular. It’s a worse language but I get to focus on the “paradigms” part of my course without having to spend extra time teaching how to jump through Haskell’s hoops. (They’re good hoops, but if I covered them quickly, students wouldn’t see it that way, I think.)

If we could get LearnHaskell or something and have it as easy to write exercises and configure, I’d seriously consider switching.

It’s the technical name of a thing in comp sci, I’m not sure what other answer you want. It specifically contrasts “one’s complement”.

Am I tripping or is the start of this article a transcript of a Louis Rossman video I watched earlier this week?

In my personal experience, “coding” has been used as long as I can remember, but took over as the dominating term maybe 8-12 years ago.

I also prefer to say programming still. Coding sounds weird to me because it has its own separate (though certainly related) meanings.

People with this view seem to forget that writing code by hand is fun. Most of the experienced programmers I know only use AI to skip the actual boring parts (some boilerplate, the occasional “duplicate this module and change some details”, stuff like that) and some of them don’t use AI at all. One of them is required to use AI by his job and he says most of his co-workers don’t like it.

The opposing viewpoints are there and I’m sure NYT knows it.

For 1: as a software company, they have a vested interest in ensuring that software engineers are as capable as possible. I don’t know if anthropic as a company uses this as a guiding principle, but certainly some companies do (ex Jane Street). So they might see this as more important than investment cycles.

The quality of software engineers and computer scientists I’ve seen coming out of undergraduate programs in the last year has been astonishingly poor compared to 2-3 years ago. I think it’s almost guaranteed that the larger companies have also noticed this.

That’s national. A source on Québec-specific cost inflation would be better, if it refutes the number in the article.

Of course as far as the CAD itself goes, inflation being lower than 3.1% already makes it suspicious to approve such a significantly larger increase. :/

I don’t mean this in a bad way; did an AI write this comment?

For those unaware, HP recently secured one of the most idiotic deals I have ever seen a state-level government agree to: all laptops in Quebec purchased with public funds must be HP laptops. They said this will “encourage competition in the laptop market.”

I can’t wait to see this new decision blow up in HP’s face.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

Clickbait.

Yeah it depends what you’re doing. I do a lot of circuit modeling where different subsystems need to talk to each other. The solutions are either Rcs (and a bunch of custom drop logic) or a parent struct holding all the others. Both are awkward. But in other programming domains I’ve found rust pleasant.

Eh rust still has issues in some domains, e.g., when cyclic data is appropriate. You can do it, but it’s annoying. To me, Haskell is really peak programming, but I know that’s opinionated and most won’t agree.

Vscode can do cross-file renames in pretty much any language. An LSP that doesn’t support this is not doing its job.

The C Preprocessor also does all of those things. That’s expected of a preprocessor. If you say “you can write java code with a bit of extra sugar and JPlus turns it back into ‘regular’ java,” then that’s a preprocessor.

I don’t think anyone’s calling it a scam, but it’s pretty clear as an outside observer that a very specific point was questioned (about where JPlus fits into the existing ecosystem) and your replies have very little to do with that topic.

Also, your replies really do look AI-written. I know it’s hard to be sure, but humans expressing a point don’t usually write summaries in the fashion of your replies and LLMs almost always do.

Anyway, personally, if I have an existing application java program then maybe there’d be an argument to use a lightweight syntax extension to continue developing it more safely. But if I were starting a new project, whether a library or application, I would just use Scala or Kotlin from the get-go. The JVM platform is already versatile enough to get us much more than just some basic extra type safety and boilerplate generation. I’m all for static analysis tools, it’s just (again) hard to see what you get from JPlus that you can’t get from either groovy or a better language.

Your replies don’t address that at all.

I don’t need syntax highlighting for that in Haskell either. My usual highlighting just leaves them both in the default text color.

And I’m specifically arguing that the other things on your list do not inherently make code bad.

Raymond’s document does not, and I believe never has, mentioned Haskell.

I also disagree with him, given that it does recommend Java, but the quote is correct.

The only things on the bad list that I agree with are top-level type inference and small communities. And ocamls windows support is terrible. Haskell’s is more than ok now.

In Haskell, any style guide worth its salt requires annotations on top level functions, and many of them also require annotations on local bindings. This pretty effectively works around the problem.

Bad code will be unreadable in any language of course. But the other things don’t themselves make code unreadable once you’re actually familiar with the language and its ecosystem.

The LLM in the most recent case had a monumental amount of context. I then gave it a file implementing a breed of hash set, asked it to explain several of the functions which it did correctly, and then asked it to convert it to a hash map implementation (an entirely trivial, grunt change, but which is too pervasive and functionality-directed for an IDE to have a neat function for this).

It spat out the source code of the tree-based map implementation in the standard library.

I’ve only tried a handful of times, but I’ve never been able to get an LLM to do a grunt refactoring task that didn’t require me to rewrite all the output again anyway.

On my menu it does say original next to one of them, but tapping on the options (any of the options) doesn’t do anything. My phone is set to french because I’m an immigrant in a french-speaking region and am making sure to engage with the language as much as possible. But this means the autodub puts a stupid robo-french voice on everything – and it’s not always a faithful translation either.

At this point I just let the creators know that YouTube is making their videos unwatchable to people with different language settings and that they can disable this when they upload videos.