I said its one of the reasons behind the network effect, not the network effect itself. github can offer more freebies, which attracts more users, which makes it more attractive to other users and for existing users to stick around.

Which is one of the reasons behind github’s network effect.

the main reason is because people don’t know about it

But you know about it now and you’re still arguing against it.

it’s an extra thing to remember for little benefit the “only” do a really useful thing that lots of people want.

The benefit you see in those tags is the same level of benefit that users who use accessibility features get from output and other semantic tags. But your argument seems to boil down to “I dont need accessibility features so i don’t care about enabling them for ppl who do”. That’s very disappointing and continuing this debate seems pointless so i’m gonna stop here

Expecting all devs to test their sites with screen readers is unrealistic.

I disagree with this but its not what we’re talking about. You said output is useless and I’m saying its obviously not. There’s zero cost to using it instead of a div so the only reason not to use it is to purposefully screw users who need accessibility features.

All those other elements give some benefit apart from accessibility

Maybe for label but p and h1 - h6 only differ from div in styles, which is another argument in my favor. If you’re willing to swap a div for one of those for visual users, swapping a div for output should be just as easy of a change.

Yes exactly. Which is reason enough to use it, unless you purposefully want worse accessibility.

You could make the same argument about p, h1 - h6, label, etc.

Nearly every web app that uses an input calculates and displays some result based on those inputs. It’s clearly useful.

They don’t need “powerful ammo”. They’re already rounding ppl up and illegally imprisoning them. And they plan to keep going further; ICE is on a hiring spree right now and just got a huge budget increase. They don’t need valid excuses to be jackboots because they’ll just do it anyway.

Refusing to use available tools to fight back is ridiculous. There is no “what if” here. They’re already doing it and they’ve made it clear that want to do more

If the system flags the wrong person and a witch hunt ensues, it will validate every right-wing persecution complex there is.

Could you explain your worry further? To me, the problem with AI facial recognition is that a government or company using it has all the power. If they get a false positive, the wrong person gets hurt with no recourse. Civilians can’t do anything detrimental with a person’s identity that’s not already illegal. Cops have been identifiable since they were catching slaves and outside of organized efforts (which this is not) there’s been no issue with thatt.

Also, it seems trivial to add a step after the system returns an identification that checks if that person is actually employed by ICE. If not, oops it got it wrong; no harm, no foul. Even if it’s wrong after that step, then what? I’ve seen no evidence that ICE agents are receiving anything beyond verbal harassment in the first place (outside of protests, where any hypothetical harm is random and not based on identity)

I’m happy to see Mozilla narrowing its focus to making just a damn browser

but thats not what theyre doing. im on mobile so dont have the link handy, but they mention in a different article that they think Pocket has been superseded by AI and tab groups. theyve harvested the bits of it they want and have no use for the consumer service now but its not about narrowing their focus.

They promised to open source it 7 years ago when they bought it and now they’re snatching it out from under users and shutting it down. Mozilla is getting better and better at emulating its Silicon Valley idols

The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies

How? The call to sabotage was against fascist programs, like surveillance, illegal arrests, etc. How would sabotaging those hurt people who could have been allies?

Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc

That is nowhere near what is happening here. We have a system of laws that is being broken. Nobody was calling for sabotage when those laws were followed. But people who use less aggressive methods to combat fascism, i.e. writing op-eds, speaking publicly against administration policies, leading protests, have started facing punishments. They are preventing the normal exercise of civilian power, so we have to escalate to sabotage or similar actions. That doesn’t make us like fascists because we are not the ones defying and breaking existing social norms and laws. This is a ridiculous argument.

The post didn’t promote consumerism in any way. It said, if you’re a tech worker you should unionize and sabotage authoritarian work where you can

Self hosting isn’t really compatible with viral content

The post I was replying to claimed virality and self hosting are at odds with one another because it causes skyrocketing expense. My point was that maybe someone selfhosting a server in the fediverse is not as interested in virality. And I doubt even the most viral posts in the fediverse would break the bank of a selfhoster

Virality is nowhere near the only reason for posting videos. People post them to make jokes, teach something, reply to someone else, etc, or all the same reasons someone might make a blogpost or a post on a link aggregator.

Theres no web app? That seems short sighted. You apparently cant access anything without logging either. I dont expect these shorts to get much viewership if you have to register and download an app to see anything. It also doesnt seem in the spirit of the fediverse

Maybe the problem in that equation is the expectation of virality and not self hosting?

on-demand pods that travel on existing abandoned railways.

They’re reusing existing tracks.

Relying on the competence of unaffiliated developers is not a good way to run a business.

This affects any site that’s posted on the fediverse, including small personal sites. Some of these small sites are for people who didn’t set the site up themselves and don’t know how or can’t block a user agent. Mastodon letting a bug like this languish when it affects the small independent parts of the web that mastodon is supposed to be in favor of is directly antithetical to its mission.

People have submitted various fixes but the lead developer blocks them. Expecting owners of small personal websites to pay to fix bugs of any random software that hits their site is ridiculous. This is mastodon’s fault and they should fix it. As long as the web has been around, the expected behavior has been for a software team to prioritize bugs that affect other sites.

This issue has been noted since mastodon was initially release > 7 years ago. It has also been filed multiple times over the years, indicating that previous small “fixes” for it haven’t fully fixed the issue.