• A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        84·
        6 天前

        I don’t think anyone is arguing the US wasn’t responsible for the current state of affairs, but ok

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
      1028·
      6 天前

      Compared the glutenous western capitalists, of course! The people of NK rebuilt their country with blood, sweat, and tears after the US bombed them to hell and back under the direction of the occupiers and despite the west’s utter determination to hold them back technologically with ridiculous unjustified sanctions

      • Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 天前

        For information only, gently presented without judgment.

        gluttonous: excessively greedy

        glutenous: a tenacious elastic protein substance especially of wheat flour that gives cohesiveness to dough

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksBanned from communityEnglish
    3210·
    6 天前

    Lmao dude who stans for North Korea, honestly? I bet you’re gonna tell me the best party is a juche party, because a juche party is mandatory

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
      936·
      6 天前

      People who maintain an open mind and break through the tri-force of western propaganda

        • pinkapple@lemmy.ml
          711·
          6 天前

          Absolute fucking westoid: "this Confucianist (culturally not so much religiously in NK) society that I don’t understand at all does things even slightly differently than our representative republican bipartisan grift completely corrupted by capitalism that we have the audacity to call democracy??? (classic eurocentric 19th century “scientific” racism where the social systems of Europe were automatically the peak of human social development and everything else was automatically backwards, inferior, oppressive etc)

          Then it’s an autocratic oppressive regime that commits heinous crimes against its citizens and it’s also evil (westoids need good and evil because their understanding of the world doesn’t go beyond LOTR)."

          Great collection of US foreign policy buzzwords and cliches that paint a suggestive emotional picture without invoking a single historical fact or example. Can’t use things that can be disputed as easily as pointing out that they originate in South Korean propaganda.

          Now let’s see you doing the same for all the monarchies in Europe, the Gulf and Asia that the US is fully aligned with including dictatorships in the past, what they did with prisoners etc. Don’t forget to include that Murica has the greatest ratio of prisoners in the world and designs laws that put (primarily black) people to jail over bs victimless crimes like drug possession or just “paraphernalia” and keep them there for years. Can those people vote in your grand democratic white state? Go on you democracy warrior.

          Oh also make a brave attempt to explain why there’s a significant tendency among NK defectors to commit suicide in SK. Are they missing evil oppressive regimes?

        • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
          920·
          6 天前

          “Megalomaniac dictator” running the “most oppressive regimes” that also just happen to have good housing, a strong and healthy workforce with strong worker protections and universal healthcare. Righttttt

          • TheBeege@lemmy.world
            136·
            6 天前

            You wanna cite your sources for that? Every time I see nice images from NK, there’s no people. Contrast that with Seoul, where I can’t get away from people 😅

          • Denjin@lemmings.world
            32·
            5 天前

            Don’t engage with this person, they’re either a teenage pro-putin edge lord or some sort of professional troll.

            • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
              34·
              5 天前

              Yessir, it’s so inconceivable that someone would be fighting against the dominant western narratives so I MUST be either a troll or teenager 🙄

              • Denjin@lemmings.world
                43·
                5 天前

                You can fight western narratives without eating up every pro-putin, pro-iran and pro-NK story blindly. You’re just as brainwashed as those you’re supposedly trying to awaken.

                • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
                  34·
                  5 天前

                  Here is a question for you, who is telling you that being pro-NK/Putin/Iran is bad? Western. Media.

            • pinkapple@lemmy.ml
              57·
              6 天前

              But you went to both and got the grand tour and somehow everyone spoke earnestly to your western ears and said “we hate it here, all day I wish for some McDonalds and Starbucks democracy but the Kims are blocking progress”? Are you openly advertising that you’re a spook?

              It’s painfully easy to figure out that the wildest stories about NK are circulated by SK as propaganda based on “anonymous sources”, stuff like NK executing their football team for embarrassing the nation etc. There’s never external corroboration for these tales that only fools believe without evidence but western media rush to circulate.

              Also little reminder for context, SK immigrants to the US after the Korean War were primarily such far right extremist scum that they’re the only group that got holed up in their exploitative little liquor shops in ghettos during the LA riots and shot back at the protesters with rifles. And low key helped start the riots when one of those extremely racist Korean shop owners shot a 13 year old black girl in the head over a (false) accusation that she had stolen a soda.

        • affenlehrer@feddit.org
          48·
          6 天前

          I believe North Korea is a pretty dangerous place to live. However, I don’t know if that’s true because them being so closed off and inaccessible makes it very easy to basically say anything about them (let’s say they eat newborns every Tuesday for lunch) and there’s no way to fact check it.

  • MBech@feddit.dk
    247·
    6 天前

    And who gave you the information that made you think the dprk isn’t that bad?

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
      49·
      6 天前

      Long and easily verifiable history of western media stories about NK being proven completely wrong+obvious foreign policy motive for lying=dismiss stories until they’re proven true

      • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
        114·
        6 天前

        But… That’s just an argument that you don’t know the situation in NK. Not that the situation is anything, good or bad?

        If I lie to you where the fire is, it does not mean the fire is cold.

        • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
          32·
          5 天前

          Not knowing would be a good reason to assume nothing, I don’t have to believe the fire is cold to doubt that there’s a fire at all

      • ssɐqɯnᗡ@quokk.auEnglish
        52·
        5 天前

        wasn’t making an argument, I was just pointing out how easy it is to see when a .ml is posting…

        but I’m not taking your bait my friend. enjoy your part of the day you’re in.

        • pinkapple@lemmy.ml
          11·
          5 天前

          You seem pretty confused about who made lemmy and why. The devs and the project itself have had explicit political stances from the beginning and that’s a great thing.

        • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
          23·
          5 天前

          I know that, the entire point of my previous comment was that you had no counterargument to make, you’re bad at this

  • procapra@lemmy.ml
    54·
    6 天前

    Yeah after a good bit of my own investigation, they just seem on par with any other poor country. Not something I’m going to worship, but not something I’m going to spend time complaining about either.

  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
    710·
    6 天前

    Downvoted for speaking the truth as usual, most westerners react poorly to being reminded that they’re not immune to propaganda

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
      78·
      6 天前

      Capitalism’s ‘bread and circus’ might be the most addictive drug of all, they close their minds off to anything that goes against the narratives because the western audience would rather not think about it and enjoy the fruits of the exploitation. Blissful ignorance and all that

      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
        44·
        6 天前

        Except they’ve been steadily scaling back both the bread and the circuses for decades now and westerners are generally as willfully ignorant as ever