• 3abas@lemm.ee
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      2 days ago

      So we’re clear, so the right wing propaganda that’s all over Reddit doesn’t spread here like wild fire, the Canadian “liberals” are just as bad as the Americans.

      And the reason they formed a minority government is the same reason Kamala lost, their insistence on genocide. The liberal party won in Canada, because the Canadian people rejected the conservative party more, but the liberal minority government has no bite.

      They didn’t defeat fascism, they (like us) desperately want a third option and didn’t have a feasible one. It’s not as bad as it could have been, so sure, “Great work, Canada!” But now the real work starts if they don’t want to go through this same drama next election.

      They just kept the fascist coin on the same face for another cycle.

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        the reason they formed a minority government is the same reason Kamala lost, their insistence on genocide

        I haven’t heard a single Canadian mention that as an election issue, and I’d been following the election. I live in a metropolitan city, and I have many Muslims in my social circles. I also have people in my social circles who lean more NDP, and others who are further left than that.

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          i dont think that played it big role why she lost, both parties support Israel every election, the only place that would have any effect is michigan which is a muslim stronghold of voters. its the fact that there was significant election inteference that wasnt questioned, and she is a woman and POC. her campaign underestimated the msygoyny of AA and hispanic groups which are traditionally conservative in nature.

          foreign policy has the least effect on elecitons than domestic issues, like the fabricated inflation problems, or grocery prices.

          if she had not said those words about israel, it mightve boosted her support a little, but not as much as you think compared to the other issues: sexism and racism.

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          Oh well if you haven’t heard it, that’s all the data we need. You have many Muslims in your social circles after all, and only Muslims care about genocide right?

          What an arrogant response.

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            10 hours ago

            You said it was “the reason”.

            You probably would’ve said it was “the reason” if we had a Conservative government, too.

            Before Carney, if you’d told me “the reason” that people voted Conservative is because they were tired of Trudeau, I’d believe you. Or told me “the reason” was because they were upset about pandemic restrictions imposed by the provincial governments, along with the economic fallout of the pandemic… I’d believe you.

            It was all over the news. Everyone was talking about it. A whole bunch of losers got into trucks and drove to the capital to complain to the wrong people on multiple levels.

            When you claim that “the reason” was an issue that I’ve never heard anybody complain about with regards to their voting intentions, it sounds like you’re just coming in with your mind made up and trying to find anything to justify the conclusion you’ve already arrived at.

            It was 3 seats of 172 or something like that. That’s why the Liberals aren’t a majority government.

            So if this an issue in 3 ridings that flipped from Liberal (to…which party has been anti-Israel?), then sure. Though it probably wouldn’t be “the reason”, since we could probably find 3 or more other ridings that flipped to Liberal from whichever other party.

            It seems like you’re living in confirmation bias and seeing the rest of the world through that lens.

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        Canada is in existential need of electoral reform. People should be able to vote for who they actually want to represent them.