• Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world
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    general sentiment: Gazans are currently paying the price for 80+ years of making the wrong political decisions and supporting terrorism.

    genocide claims are specious at best. Just like at the end of WW2, where a lot of German civilians had to die as a consequence of bad political decisions made back in the 1930’s. Even if they didn’t vote for Hitler, all had to pay the price collectively. In this world, sometimes, that’s just the way it goes. Time to pay the piper. Chickens come home to roost and all of that.

    general sentiment: shout less slogans you heard on social media, and read a history book now and then.

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      What constitutes a genocide? What is your personal definition of a genocide, and what makes you consider the actions that Israel is undertaking in Gaza not satisfy that definition?

      By the way, it’s very nice to speak to someone who has read the history books, because I have, like, a bunch of questions.

      What poor political decision lead to the deir yassin massacre? Is there any particular political decision that caused settlers to burn entire cillages to the ground in the 40s? Who made that decision?

      And what poor political decision on the part of the Palestinians lead to the ethnic cleansing of 400k arabs in 1967?

      And what decision lead to the murder of 3000 palestinian refugees over the span of two nights in the refugee camps sabra and shatila?

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        What poor political decision lead to

        Both sides walking away in 1947…

        Although time has demonstrated that it was a bigger mistake for the Palestinians than it was for the Jews.

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          Ok, I didn’t expect much, but this is very little. When you said we should read the history books, which books did you mean? Did you read them? Have you read any Pappé? Have you read Morris’ early work?

          And when you completely ignored my question about what your personal definition of genocide is, and how it leads you to deny the genocide in Gaza, was that because you don’t have or know one? I feel like this is the more important of the questions I asked. Just like with your intellectual siblings, holocaust deniers, I expect you to either put up or shut up.

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      Ah yes, the classic genocide denier mantra: “it didn’t happen, but they deserve it!”