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    In Taoist and Zen art, there will be landscape paintings and a tiny human off in a corner. Unimportant. Small. Not the subject. BECAUSE THE WORLD ISN’T FOR US. We’re just in it.

    Why would the mountains under the ocean be “for anyone?”

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      That type of art can help break self centered / egotistical thinking. But human experience is as much apart of this world as anything else. What would be nice is if we started treating everything as sich. Our tendency to other ourselves instead of viewing everything as a whole is what lends to domination of the planet.

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        Very much my point. When we realize that we’re part of the landscape and not its owners, we can all live more harmoniously. The world existed before us and will persist after we’re gone. No amount of toxic optimism can change that.

        What we do with ourselves in this world and the perspective we view it from helps us move through it more fluidly.

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      See “Wanderer Above The Sea Of Fog”, the Casper David-Friedrich painting imitated a billion times over in Instagram alone. Western thought places ourselves central and above nature, as though conquering. Curiously, this may have to do with cultures which developed cultivating wheat rather than rice because of the more communal nature of the latter.

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        Western thought places ourselves central and above nature, as though conquering.

        Precisely this. Think about our speech. “I conquered that mountain.” “Columbus ‘discovered’ the Americas.” etc., etc. It’s a certainty that the mountain was unaffected by someone reaching the summit and that the Americas existed before (and were populated by people, not to mention found by other Euros) before Colón arrived.

        I almost included it initially, but the rabbit hole is deep.

        Speaking of holes, one of my favorite phrases is “dig holes in your own backyard.” It’s another Eastern idea whereby we explore the things close to us and learn more about where you live. Too many of us forget how rewarding that can be.

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      Because not everyone subscribes for Taoist/Zen philosophy?

      Why wouldn’t they be for someone?

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    Who decides where to stop counting for mountain size? Why do we stop at sea level for above-sea-level mountains, but go to whatever the deepest “nearby” spot is for undersea mountains? Who decides what nearby is? For mountains near the sea, why not go down further? It’s all a scam!

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        Here’s what wild about that. Olympus Mons is so massive and with a gentle enough slope that, across most of it’s topology a person standing on it, might not even know they were on a mountain. At about 22km high and about 600km wide, you could (very roughly on average) expect to walk about 13.6 meters in order to rise or fall 1 meter (~7% slope). Another source puta the slop at %5 (1:20). Those are both on the same order of magnitude of slope as a handicap ramp.

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    I’m doubtful there’s actually any place where a mountain taller than Everest that doesn’t break the surface exists, most of the ocean just isn’t that deep