Then it didn’t make 13 billion…… and it didn’t lose 21 billion.
It lost 8 billion. That’s how math works.
You’re not wrong, but neither is the title. That’s just how business accounting works. Ultimately, it’s still the same conclusion ($8 billion loss)
Vibe stocks
That’s a weird way of saying that they had a net loss of $8 billion. Are you trying to imply that this is somehow extraordinary for a growth company? How do you figure that?
Yep, defo not a bubble.
What’s their op ex though? I feel like there must be a sizable portion of that which isn’t actually necessary to keep the service up.
So the the operating expense was greater than their revenue from operations by about 2, but it seems like they’re minimizing it by hiding the cost of some of the compute inside marketing and training costs. This is something that a few AI companies in China have been caught doing to make it seem like they’re doing better than they are. So they could be incinerating money at an even faster rate than they just admitted.
And in R&D
Yah, given that “training models” doesn’t stop when the model is finished and released. Like, a released model needs to be continuously tweaked to keep it up to date or to deal with problems that have occurred. Even if that’s not literally tokens used by customers, it is compute being used to provide service to customers.
And that’s just assuming that they’re not just hiding some compute costs used to service customer demand inside the R&D budget. “Oh, you see, this pool of customers are being served with an experimental version, so any compute here is actually R&D, any API fees or subscription payments made by them of course get counted towards normal revenue.”
A lot of people are gonna give openaishit over this, but the old cliché is true; gotta spend money to lose money.
At a personal scale you can just light a few bills on fire, and you’re good. Maybe even gamble away a home or something if you’re filthy rich.
But at this scale that just doesn’t work. Burning this amount of money takes infrastructure, trucks, roads, labor, and facilities. Otherwise the poor’s might take some of it.
Can you imagine what those people would spend this kind of money on?
Looks like the shovel seller is making quite a bit
JENsen still can afford his jackets, and is pretty jubilent about the whole ordeal, albeit still alarmed.
Indeed, they’re the only ones. Along with Samsung, SK Hynix, AMD, etc.
This is interesting. Nvidia cashing in while they can. They’ll come back to us consumers when/if all this AI stuff collapses.
NVIDIA has the whole ai bubble wrapped around jensen like a jacket. yea hes going to lose alot but not as much as the ai tech bros.
Wow, I like that “spent since page load”.
I want a ticker like that “Lemmy pages since bong load”.
I don’t smoke weed, I have a future
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“So what did you do with the $100,000?”
"I invested it and turned it into sixteen THOUSAND dollars. "
First thing I thought of lmao.
OpenAI:
“I DON’T NEED MONEY! I DON’T EVEN LIKE IT! I JUST WANNA THROW IT AWWWAAAAAAY!!”
im betting sam altman asked claude instead of CHAPGPT to how much to invest and where.
Do you know how to make a small fortune with AI?
First, start with a big fortune…
So they lost $8b.
Altman is such a miserable cunt.
he pretty much is created by thiel, so yes he is. since ALtman met his husband at one of thiels “pool” parties. just like how he plucked vance out of obscurity from yale. he does love his gay puppets.
indeed
You have to spend money to make money :)
spend more money to lose more money.
You are not actually considering the scale of 20 billion dollars nor the jump in a single year. Those are bad things.
The actual economics behind LLMs shows us they cannot become profitable ever, and this “invest more before becoming profitable” story does not fit in part because of that. Other companies who used that model had a way to become profitable.
Sometimes you have to spend more than you make but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea! You just have to continue spending and one day it’ll maybe start turning a profit. Maybe not, though! 🙂 I love AI
Thank you very much for explaining what I meant.
Are you serious? You don’t know much about this if you think that’s what’s going on.
See my response below and keep an open mind.
Edit: And yes I am serious because this is how business has been done for a long time
Are you being facetious or are you just dumb?
They’re being facetious but it’s actually what AI investors are thinking. AI can lose money until it’s the only AI company left then they can charge whatever they want.
I had an AI engineer tell me that hallucinations are actually AI having original thoughts. Zzzzz
You are wrong about me being facetious, I have explained in my response.
Wtf, these folk s are clinically insane. It’d be funny if they weren’t literally fucking over the entire world in the process.
Neither. It was very nice of frunch@lemmy.world to make an effort and explain my comment in his response. Sometimes things might not be as simple as you think so please keep an open mind. Thank you
So the latter, gotcha.
Bah that’s baby numbers compared to what “private space” will accomplish!
This is what you call a succesful business man /s
If someone gave me 21billion I bet I could only lose 1 billion, return the 20, and never be seen again.
This was standard operating procedure for Silicon Valley companies before COVID.
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This AI slop post keeps popping up.
