that’s what money flow should look like.

community (town, city) donates money to people, who then use it to buy goods and services from companies (which make a profit that way) that are then taxed by the community.

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  • Aniki@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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    16 days ago

    admittedly i’ve never really looked into eastern contemporary economic models, largely because of how inaccessible they are to me as somebody who does not speak the native language; an important contentious point to me are the following two: what is the role of workers in cosmology, and how to deal with non-workers?

    • the first important question to ask is “what is the role of workers in cosmology”? in other words, what is the reason that humans are regarded special; why do we grant special rights and protection to humans, but not to other animals and plants. Where does this special role come from, and what conditions must be fulfilled to upkeep this role?

    the way i see it, humans are a kind of driving force of history in an universal market that is tended towards growth. i’m a huge fan of outer-space human settlements (such as mars settlement), and realistically, only humans can do it. other species cannot; so we have to do it and obviously get a reward for it, since we’re doing it for all of nature, not just ourselves. plants profit from larger access to land as well. this justifies putting humans on a pedestal.

    • however, what happens to the humans that stay behind? i.e. those not willing to endure hardships to go on a space trip? as i see it, maintaining an equilibrium does not require humans; nature has existed billions of years just fine without us. then, what justifies that we continue to put ourselves on a pedestal? what is the deeper philosophical reason for this?
    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      16 days ago

      I mean there are plenty of books on the subject in English. For example, China’s Great Road is a great primer on how Chinese economy works and its historical context http://rdcy.ruc.edu.cn/yw/PUBLICATIONS/Books/f87f6b3cda0d45bfb22c2d3da5b3db3d.htm

      And regarding the second point, I don’t really believe in any sort of historical determinism. I don’t think there’s a purpose for humanity or that we need to spread life throughout the cosmos. It is something I’d personally would find interesting, but I don’t think it’s predetermined in any way or even more likely than us going extinct. The growth trajectory we’re following right now isn’t really different that from a bacteria culture in a petri dish where it exponentially expands to use up all available resources and then dies off.

      Also, I think it could be likely that humans are a transitional species bridging the gap between organic life and some other substrate that we create. It could be that future post biological life will bootstrap on silicon or some other engineered substrate. And that’s what’s going to colonize space because it will be able to engineer itself to adapt to the conditions of space and thrive there naturally. I don’t see anything fundamental about biology that is necessary for intelligence, I expect that algorithms in our brains are transferable to other substrates, and that eventually we will build machines that can think in the same way we do and have similar type of conscious experience to us. These kinds of beings would be far better suited to space travel, and could thrive naturally in that environment.