“Reportedly” is carrying a lot of weight here
So I guess the plan is to make a somehow buoyant hyperscaler powered on tidal energy tech which is pretty much still in its infancy, and radiate all the heat in an already too hot ocean?
Lovely idea, Theil, I hope it leaks.
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Maybe Shady Vance will have a job then, after the inevitable fall from grace.
The best thing Thiel can do for planet Earth is kill himself and his billionaire buddies.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they all went to the Football World Cup final this year.
Then it’s not a startup.
May the Orcas rip him apart
Ah yes. The time-tested strategy of dumping our shit in the ocean.
Don’t worry about it. You can’t see it anymore so it’s surely fine!
Didn’t Microsoft already try this a few years ago, and it didn’t work because it was a frankly stupid idea.
Microsoft was trying to build something they could sell for practical reasons as a cheaper alternative to land based data centers. For that purpose it is not cost effective.
Peter Thiel is trying to build something that will not be subject to laws so he can continue to develop horrors beyond human comprehension. For that use case it is possibly very cost effective.
Fuck Thiel.
Thiel is an enemy of humanity.
Wait, didn’t he talk about the antichrist at a conference, and basically describe himself? Pretty fitting honestly
Germany produced Hitler, Trump and Thiel…
WTF is in the water over there…
Data centers soon apparently…
Hitler was Austrian.
I though Thiel was South African?
That’s Musk
Thiel was also raised in South Africa, during apartheid, and was schoolmates with a lot of… shall we say… german speaking individuals
You know I’m beginning to think this apartheid thing might have been a bad influence.
He’d probably like that.
Imagine the noise that will create underwater. What a horrible form of torture for all the animals in the water.
I hope the salt water makes these ocean data centers impossible.
Wave power is transmitted back to land, usually, it won’t be a floating data center. At least I doubt it would be, but who knows, they are pretty awful people.
It’s a floating data center. They started out as autonomous hydrogen electrolysis in the middle of the ocean, then shipping liquid hydrogen back to land. Now they pivoted to using the hydrogen to power onboard compute
So they generate electricity from wave power then use that to electrolyze water and put that to a catalyst to generate electricity?
Seems unnecessarily overcomplicated with lots of inefficiencies. Why not just power the computer’s directly?
Definitely wasteful to convert. I’m guessing the hydrogen is a store for when waves aren’t wavey.
Even though it’s renewable energy, it still generates a significant amount of heat.
Can we try cutting down on computing resources wherever possible first?
Can we try cutting down on Peter Thiels?
Not to mention the devastating environmental impact it could have on the marine ecosystem surrounding it.
Yeah seriously, if we could start making software more efficient rather than throwing more hardware at it, we’d be in a much better position environmentally and economically.
Imagine only one thing: the web of the 90s/00s with today’s hardware and bandwidth.
A wet dream. But actually I loaded some pages faster with a 14k4 baud modem than some pages with 5Gbit today. With 47228 frameworks and captchas and …
With every iteration of higher power, programs went shittier, more clogged and devs grew lazy.
Abstraction layers will be the death of us.
Efficiency is a big deal in datacenters. Aside from the AI bubble, companies actually don’t like lighting money on fire. More efficient hardware saves them lots of money; less hardware, less power, less datacenter space, less maintenance, fewer support contracts, fewer software licenses, etc etc.
While the current splashy “state of the art” models in terms of cognitive ability are American, IMO the real foundation for future AI is coming out of China these days. It’s not quite as smart but they’re focusing heavily on making AI training and inference cheaper in terms of compute (and therefore more efficient in terms of energy usage). It’s a mother-of-invention situation, sure - they’ve been cut off from the latest and greatest NVIDIA cards so they’re having to find ways to make do with less powerful hardware. But that’s going to be super important once AI is “good enough” for various real world tasks and the most powerful models aren’t needed for most activities.
That’s not what I said. We’re using those hardware efficiency gains to offset the performance losses of additional abstraction layers. If we were to make the software more efficient, the hardware efficiency gains would actually be noticeable and we wouldn’t be wasting nearly as much energy overall.
This is all ai compute. Yes modern software is bloated but ai inference currently kind of has to run on gpus.
From a physics standpoint, would the energy from the waves eventually turn to heat anyway through friction and waves crashing onshore? Law of conservation of energy and such? If we’re getting the energy from the ocean and venting it back into the ocean…?
Indeed, it’s basic thermodynamics. The energy coming in to Earth gets turned into heat one way or another, the only question is where that heat goes. In this case it goes into the ocean either way.
Somehow this will wind up destroying the ocean
If Thiel is involved that’s almost a guarantee
The year is 2050, massive petawatt scale ocean based data centres are warming the ocean in their immediate vicinity, opening up new breeding grounds for a new killer algae. The algae once unable to grow in regular ocean tempatures thrives in this new ecosystem, and once it matures is able to leave the warmer waters and destroys other marine life it comes into contact with.
This destruction of life in the ocean reverberates around the world as food supply dwindles and hundreds of millions of people begin to starve.
Nah we won’t get that far, turns out re-entering satellites deplete ozone pretty significantly but on a 30y delay. SpaceX and Amazon are gonna keep launching their mega-constellations on the grounds of ‘Nothing bad has happened yet so you can’t prove it will’ and by the time it kicks in it’ll be too late.
All the methane the rockets leak into the upper atmosphere might fuck us over first.
We can finally boil the ocean
According to everything I learned watching Shark Tank reruns, a business isn’t worth anything without sales.
