Yeah I agree with that. Making people feel bad is not making them like you, try to understand you or work with you. Otherwise heaxbear would already have taken over the Lemmyverse by bullying everyone into being socialist.
Its the same logic people use to defend their bullying of fat people.
And by no means I mean to stop critiquing people. But doing so with compassion, a willingness to educate and social awareness is so much better when you want to have people join your cause.
Yeah and now you think it makes sense to do the same to others. Which yes it worked, but in a fucked up way. You now also dont seem see the problem in wielding shame and embarrassment to influence others. Those are tools you use to make people submit and not to support in growing into the people they could be.
I don’t actively do it with the intention to make people submit. I do it because I don’t care about them and being mean to them is funny and good (we are talking about people who ultimately support fascism, here)
But also I don’t dunk on people I might have any genuine independent influence on; I do try to do the ‘support them into growing into the people they could be’ thing for those folks
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Yeah I agree with that. Making people feel bad is not making them like you, try to understand you or work with you. Otherwise heaxbear would already have taken over the Lemmyverse by bullying everyone into being socialist.
Its the same logic people use to defend their bullying of fat people.
And by no means I mean to stop critiquing people. But doing so with compassion, a willingness to educate and social awareness is so much better when you want to have people join your cause.
Hexbears’ bullying absolutely worked on me lmao
Yeah and now you think it makes sense to do the same to others. Which yes it worked, but in a fucked up way. You now also dont seem see the problem in wielding shame and embarrassment to influence others. Those are tools you use to make people submit and not to support in growing into the people they could be.
I don’t actively do it with the intention to make people submit. I do it because I don’t care about them and being mean to them is funny and good (we are talking about people who ultimately support fascism, here)
But also I don’t dunk on people I might have any genuine independent influence on; I do try to do the ‘support them into growing into the people they could be’ thing for those folks