Title. Alt account cause obviously.
Been on lemmy for like 2 years, at first it was okay, possibly because I started on lemm.ee (RIP), possibly the influx of new users from reddit has changed things, who knows.
But now I keep seeing all the same things happen here that happened on reddit. People abusing rules that go unenforced, mods removing posts/banning users only when they take offense, users (and even mods) fighting each other over instances like rival gangs, communities propped up by single users, all of it.
The only actual differences I’ve found are that there’s no ads, and some instances have a more gated sign-up process to deter bots/spammers. That’s it.
There are some good faith users of course, but it seems the vast majority just want to be in a safe space echo chamber and talk shit about each other. It’s like that meme from the office: corporate needs you to differentiate these images, and one is reddit and the other is reddit wearing a lemmy mask, they’re the same image.
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i feel like a lot of you people are absolutely terrible at moderating your own content, you know you can block people and communities, right?
Seems to be an increasingly popular opinion, but hey ho. For me Lemmy is better by an order of magnitude - at least for now.
I’ve yet to have to deal with any overzealous mods, or been site-banned for some minor rule infraction by some bot. Nobody’s been particularly shitty to me. Plus my comments, although never accruing stellar amounts of up-votes, are usually acknowledged and added to rather than being ignored because I posted an hour later and people can’t be arsed to scroll that far down the thread.
Honestly, I’m pretty happy with it. Sure, there’s certain vocal, marginalized groups who are always massively over-represented on platforms like this, but I filter out certain keywords using the Boost app and, basically, it’s all good.
The only actual differences I’ve found are that there’s no ads, and some instances have a more gated sign-up process to deter bots/spammers. That’s it.
That’s why I came here plus stopping generating profit for an American corporation
Upvote for unpopular opinion.
I joined years ago and as more people with more variety in perspectives from all around the world are joining in, things are better and better.
I started on reddit when it opened, and quit after they started selling out more and more. I think lemmy feels a bit what reddit was starting off, and thats a good thing.
Upvote, as this is indeed an unpopular opinion
second post on this subject in a couple of weeks
this place was pretty fucked from the start as it was populated by people banned from reddit and fundamentalists that disagreed with reddit’s fantasy zionist capitalism (and a bunch of cool linux users)
honestly i think it’s turned out pretty well considering
the left wing tankies are mostly isolated on thier own instances, unlike on reddit where conservatives have majority propaganda presence throughout most subs, via bots/spams from russia and users themselves, followed by gatekeeper of certain subs.
People are people, manage your expectations accordingly.
These kinds of federated services were never meant to be better than reddit in a content sense, all they do is provide a system in which the possibility of a subjectively better platform was possible.
More simply, federated services are about federation/decentralisation.
The idiomatic solution to the problem you’re describing is either to:
start your own federated instance, with the prerequisite amount of hookers and blackjack, but also sufficient rules and moderational enforcement to adhere to your expectations of what a better reddit looks like.
or
find an instance that already does this and join it.
This is a thing that is possible in a federated service, which is the actual difference between reddit and lemmy/piefed etc
Yeah I feel you, but also, that’s just people. Specifically, people on the internet. There is no perfect place where none of that happens, it’ll happen everywhere. No matter how you start or how small you are, if you grow eventually you will get assholes, and people disobeying the rules, and trolls, and every shitty thing.
I see it too here, and it’s bittersweet. We’ve grown which is good, but also with growing means more assholes. Even if assholes are ~2% of the users, when the userbase doubles it means we have double the assholes too.
it’s what you make of it where. I think we’ve done as good as a job as we can here, always room for improvement, but personally compared to the random reddit thread I stumble into when researching stuff, I still feel better here.
In other news, people exist and some of them are dicks. Some of them just disagree with you. Some are/do both.
Also, maybe consider the possibility that there is no such thing as a ‘hive mind’ anywhere and its just a lot of people in a particular space don’t agree with you about some things.
People on Reddit migrated to Lemmy. They are literally the same people. It is made worse by the fact that malicious individuals can now host instances instead of just Reddit (who tried to keep the bare minimum of public image).
Exactly.
People got banned from Reddit a long time ago for the mildest criticism of the US regime and especially shitrael.
Those who were still on it have either kept quiet or condoned it.Only after the Blue MAGAts got problems themselves Reddit suddenly became bad.
I remember the ‘Reddit refugees welcome’ phase here.
All we got was more shitlibs.
People are starting to get snarly and insulting on here as well. Not surprising though, it’s an manufactured unfair world and people are angry about it. I’m guilty of it myself from time to time…but I try to do better.
Thank you! The in-fighting is such a turn off! Why are people so hostile? Like I don’t think I’m the only one who comes on here and does NOT want to read crap about so and so should be murdered, wtf?? This is not how normal people behave or talk! Get a grip, seriously!
This. So much this. I don’t know why it’s so tolerated so widely here, and I hate that it’s becoming normalized. You nailed it: normal people do not behave or talk like that.
Every now and then there’s an Ask Lemmy thread along the lines of “what would you do if you could do anything” and the number of people sharing their violent murderous fantasies there and getting upvoted for it is genuinely staggering. Like you said: normal people don’t behave like that. If someone finds themselves having daydreams about murdering “the elites” or whatever, it’s time to get off social media and go take a walk outside.
If someone finds themselves having daydreams about murdering “the elites” or whatever, it’s time to get off social media and go take a walk outside.
Preferably to a psychiatrist who enjoys a challenge.
Oh, c’mon now… we’re naked apes, we are. We’re naturally gonna react in all KINDS of different ways, completely outside of “Starfleet.”
Suggestion to get over yourself upon that nonsensical, @ptz@dubvee.org.
Hey that was the promise. Like reddit but no big money
Centralized profit seeking service: We platform the trolls because “user number go up!”
Decentralized community-run services: We throw out the bad actors since users cost money to host.
I like one of them better than the other.
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As we get more and more people who were banned from Reddit and think they can come here to contonue being assholes, yeah. I’m here because I hate the Reddit UI and official app, so when they killed off 3rd party apps I refused to play along. The people who jumped ship by choice are usually fine, but yeah overall you’re not wrong.
The lack of content a couple of years ago and behaviour of a lot of the userbase now has consistently helped cut down on the doomscrolling though, can’t complain there.
What are you talking about echo chamber, you mean to tell me everyone else isn’t a communist cat girl?
Got a problem society? Solar panels!
School shootings? Make the kids carry solar panels to deflect bullets and make free energy!
Who use Linux and wear thigh highs all day.
