- cross-posted to:
- 196@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- 196@lemmy.world
The first four ARE different…
It took me a few seconds, but 2&4 are different because of how close the hands are to the guard vs pommel.
Don’t tell ME how to have a good time

I dunno, nr. 7 seems correct to me :3
Took me a second to realize what was ‘wrong’. He’d surely do this if he could. Don’t change my mind.
Oooooh, so that’s where the third sword goes.
- Luffy
Vooof

That’s an Italian grip foil. That’s one method of holding it. I had one when I fenced and was taught a different grip for it. There is also a French grip that only has one way to hold it. I had one of those as well. Most people used what we called the orthopedic grip but probably has a different name now.
That’s a sidesword or early rapier. Hundreds of years earlier than the smallsword, the weapon for which the foil was developed as a practice weapon.
I’m not familiar with the term orthopedic grip, but a quick search suggests that this is what I knew, when I was doing sport fencing, as the “pistol grip”.
These days I do HEMA rather than modern sport fencing. In fact, a fellow instructor at my school is responsible for the English translation of Lovino, the source from which the above image derives. Here’s the whole image:

You are most certainly correct. I am no armourer, and I only fenced Italian because I’m a lefty and it was kit that could borrow when I started. My master was highly skilled, but no great historian of the sport. I note that there is no bell guard, and that the cross hilt is behind the finger loops, but I understood that to be of minimal importance.
Would that be the pistol grip?
Probably. That seems very succinct :)
I think the answer is yes, it would. Though see my reply at the same level as yours for further details/corrections.
That is not how I grip the hilt with number 7 … why do y’all think the guard forms such a wide base?
You should see how Vivec holds his Muatra.






