• goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    If you look through the thread the admins use examples of troll comments calling for violence and threatening other users as evidence of censorship and zionism.

    in the comment i posted in this sub they were called out

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      It’s also funny because some of the comments they cite as having been removed by the “Zionist” mods are literally just “Go fuck yourself you piece of trash!” followed by the actual argument. What do you think, were they banned for the first or the second half of their comment? Nuance seems to be completely dead on this instance, which is saddening to see because I greatly value the contributions of @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Seems like i’s a personal vendetta from one of the admins.

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              I have either blocked or avoided them successfully on the multiple accounts I have had over time while trying out different instances that my recollection is vague and I do not have examples. For me to dislike someone that much they have to be a hypocrite who abuses their power against multiple users other than myself, does not argue in good faith, and responds to people with what they assume they meant instead of what was said. Unruffled is right there too, baiting people into responding and then banning people for ‘not letting things go’ because they need to get the last word in.

              db0 seems to comes across to me as misguided, Unruffled and Draconic_NEO come across as malicious and petty.

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                I agree with you on unruffled, any sort of peaceful resolution, or even mutual discussion with them is impossible. They’re insanely combative and vindictive. My experiences with db0 have been largely positive, though.

                I suppose there was this time when I asked Draconic to edit a comment (you can see it in mod-log,) since it was too close to being antisemitic, and instead of editing it, they posted my mod decision to YPTB. Surprisingly, the community there questioned them rather than blindly attacking me.

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          i’d love a neutral place for people to discuss their issues and come to a consensus instead of flinging shit between spaces. you can’t post in dbzer0 since you’re banned, so they can say whatever they want about you.

          i’m unsure if you’ve banned any of them.

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              oh, is there a reason why you’re not contesting in the thread? not worth the drama?

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                I am being the better person. Why do I have to explain myself when they don’t listen anyways? Aside from that, why should I pour fuel in the flames?

                It is not like me to be childish like that.

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        it’s important to note that the admins on dbzer0 act independently of each other. they don’t communicate or plan every single post, which sometimes leads to them publicly arguing about admin decisions, which is delightfully refreshing and transparent. I really like it.

        but i wouldn’t hold any of the admins aside from unruffled for this post.

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          I would. I’m not sure how dbzer0’s governance works/is supposed to work because I, quite frankly, don’t care, but the other admins tolerate unruffled’s behaviour. They made them an admin and they’re choosing to keep them around. They might not be directly responsible for unruffled’s actions but they’re enabling them.

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            dbzer0 is an anarchist instance. db0 is the person.

            Anarchists don’t believe in hierarchy, so all admins act largely independently from one another. i’ve spoken to db0 before about how hierarchies work in an anarchist online forum, but didn’t really dive deep enough to fully comprehend how it works. either way, db0 did say that the userbase can oust an admin if they are no longer happy with how they act. They don’t always tolerate unruffled’s behaviour and there have been some cases of back and forths between admins in the modlog where they unban and reban and unban and repeat

            perhaps you can ask them about it in a good-faith approach?

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              Edited.

              ETA - Also, when I said I don’t care, I meant it. I don’t judge people’s actions by their ideals and intentions, I judge by the outcomes. And the outcome is, well, this.