Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has claimed that a heroic Jewish bystander saved Jewish lives during the Bondi Beach massacre by tackling one of the gunmen. In fact, the man who made the heroic intervention is a Muslim of Levantine descent who was shot twice in the process.

Ahmed El Ahmed, from Idlib in Syria according to a relative, went up unarmed against one of the attackers, wrested his gun away and turned it on the terrorist, forcing him to flee, as footage shown by Al Jazeera demonstrates…

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      Wrong.

      Zionism is genocidal maniacs in israel and abroad. Zionism is an ethnic supremacy movement with fascist elements of revanchism.

      Zionism has been this way since before the foundation of the state of Israel.

      You are arguing that Nazism wasn’t a problem, it was only the people in Germany.

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          Nazism was about reclaiming the German homeland (and genocide).

          Zionism is about genociding Palestinians (and reclaiming “homeland”).

          They are the same thing.

          And no, don’t you fucking dare pretend all Jewish people are Zionist scum. You do not get to frame this as antisemitism, when it is not.

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          Zionists love conflating jewish people and zionists so that any anti-zionist message seems anti-semitic

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            And it has the added bonus of convincing people that those annoying Jews who keep protesting them aren’t really Jewish

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            I can’t believe how fucking stupid people are.

            Like. It works. How fucking braindead do you have to be to not be able to tell the difference between a religion/ethnicity and a country?

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          you’re arguing that jewish people are inherently genocidal

          I mean, the bible pretty much backs up the fact that the Jewish people are inherently genocidal.

          • The Midianites - Moses orders his army to kill every Midianite man, woman and boy… the virgin girls are spared so that the soldiers can have their ways with them. Numbers 31:1–18
          • The Amorites - Their king didn’t allow the Israelites to cross his land to attack the Canaanites, so they killed the king and then killed all of his people: men, women and children. Deuteronomy 2:32-34
          • Bashan - Then the king of Bashan did the same thing the king of the Amorites did… and he and his people met the same fate. Deuteronomy 3:1–6
          • Jericho - The people of Jericho weren’t the only ones killed. The Israelites killed every man, woman, child, ox, sheep and donkeys. Joshua 6:21
          • Ai - After killing all of the men on the battlefield the Israelites went into the city and killed everyone who lived there. Joshua 8:24–26
          • Makkedah - “He struck it… he left no survivor.” Joshua 10:28
          • Libnah - “He left no survivor in it.” Joshua 10:30
          • Lachish - “Struck it with the edge of the sword, and every person in it.” Joshua 10:32
          • Eglon - “killed every person in it” and “left no survivor.” (Joshua 10:34–39)
          • Hebron - “killed every person in it” and “left no survivor.” (Joshua 10:34–39)
          • Debir - “killed every person in it” and “left no survivor.” (Joshua 10:34–39)
          • All Northern Cities of Canaan - The Israelites defeated a coalition of northern cities, then captured those cities… “and they did not leave any who breathed.” Joshua 11:10–15
          • The Amalekites - This is a good one… during the Exodus the Amalekites attacked the Israelites. So, 400 years later King Saul killed every “man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” 1 Samuel 15:1–33

          Even their own history books don’t just say that they’re predisposed to genocide, they celebrate it.

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        Well you see, zionists are like cheerleaders. Would it be fair to blame the cheerleader for what the football players are doing? /s

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          My favourite part of doing this exercise is being jewish and having some rando using bob marley songs to tell me “zionist” is an ethnic slur

          If you tried to make this shit up it would be bad writing

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          for example, would you call Bob Marley a genocidal maniac?

          no, because hes talking about an ideal in Rastafarian and not advocating for the genocide of a people. two very different situations and very different usages of the term zion.

          its almost like words have different meanings in different contexts and its important to actually understand the contextual usage before we spout nonsense.

          edit: unfortunately zionists w/ respect to isreal are inherently genocidal. its a per-requisite for isreal to exist. isreal was founded on a genocide and it’ll continue to perpetuate genocide for as long as is necessary to complete the job.

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            so maybe don’t use religious term to refer to the actions of a regime?
            no form of zionism advocates for the genocide of a people…. many zionists do, but that’s not zionism
            it’s like calling all muslims terrorists, and then any time there’s a muslim terrorist saying “those fucking muslims! i hate muslims!”

            the genocide is the problem, not zionism in and of itself

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              jews dont own the term zion. isreal zionism absolutely is genocidal at its very core. isreal was founded via a genocide and it continues perpetuating it to this day. you cannot be a isreal zionist and not be a genocidal supporter. its literally baked into the roots of isreali zionism movement from day 1.

              isreal is not the whole of jewish culture. its not even a truly important aspect of the culture. jews existed before, exist outside of, and will likely continue well after it eventually collapses in on itself due to cut off from all outside support.

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              The belief that that land is ours by right, promised to us by an angry man in the sky - aka zionism - is ideological fuel for the genocide we’ve been inflicting on the palestinian people.

              If genocide is the problem, then zionism is a big part of the problem.