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Schumer was already publicly ruminating on voting for it without getting anything!
That’s absolutely his style
I figure at some point they’ll just stagger what gets shut down, so everyone eventually gets fatigue trying to track if they’ll be working and getting paid out of a pool of 50+ different shutdown deadlines with vague descriptions of who is impacted and who isnt.
I don’t get it. A story that is 100% supposed to be a win for democrats. Something that will get liberals working together and motivated. Something that will get republicans unmotivated and tank Trump’s approval ratings even more. Schumer snd Jeffries take the right path in actually shit talking Trump to further antagonize them.
And this is the top comment? To bash the democrats?
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Bad example, Milton basically won Office Space.
All those things are bad… in your opinion.
As was the case last time a government shutdown was talked about, Trump wants the shutdown! Using their leverage to shut the government down could be great for Trump and bad down democrats. There is a risk that you are ignoring by saying these things.
Fact is, since the last time the government shutdown was talked, Trump’s approval ratings have absolutely tanked. Would that have happened if Democrats used their power and to get some concession? It’s entirely possible Schumer made the right decision last time to not shut the government down.
Now in this case, Trump has done something that is in no way defensible and democrats should be rallying around shit talking Trump. But instead, we completely ignore Trump’s bullshit and complain about party leaders.
How about instead of complaining about Democrats not using their tiny amount of leverage that very easily could backfire, we instead do something that will hopefully result in Democrats gaining more seats and giving real leverage.
Edit: just to drive the point home, Trump was at -1 according to economists when Schumer decided not to shut the government down in March. He went down to -10 within the month. He’s at -17 today.
If the government was shut down, all bad things would be blamed on democrats and Trump would have his scape goat.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
Not exactly. The focus is on those two Democrats. They have consistently failed on this exact issue. Do we really think they’ll succeed now? No, we don’t… But look, if they make a stand, good for them!
Many of the other Democrats in Congress have a spine, and we respect them more because of it, relatively speaking.
You’d be surprised how many users here were a part of the protest vote against Harris.
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You’d be surprised
I would not be! They probably also protest voted Biden and Clinton and Obama and somehow act like Schumer and Jeffries are the reason why democrats are toothless. And not because these “liberals” are ripping their teeth out.
I just mentioned some positive facts about Obama on lemmy.ml memes and I got called a Nazi and banned. We got flavors of liberals who hate each other when we need to be working together. It was really strange being called a liberal Nazi.
If we get hung up on every small thing we are never gonna be happy at some point you have to recognize that people have different points of view we can’t be alienating people who are on the same team…
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I think democrats have a disadvantage over republicans because republicans will rally around their people no matter what. All a republican has to do is say Trump good, radical left bad and they win their party
For better and worse democrats won’t do this. So the democratic politicians have to walk these tight ropes to appeal to people that are so quick to hate them. The net effect of this is democratic politicians losing votes and republicans holding strong.
I think democrats should continue to expect more from their leaders, but in some cases we need to recognize a win and let it be. Why do we need to make this issue about why democrats suck when it is clearly a Trump/Republicans issue?
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Who cares what the purpose is? The result is going to be feckless leaders being pussies. As long as those two are in charge, we’re done
Yes. Russian agent or not, there are many on here doing their work.
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Will a shutdown stop the payments to ICE?
I don’t consider them essential.
Will the administration’s failure to negotiate lead to even fewer deportations?
Can’t stop the Gestapo!
Democrats will surprise the hell out of me if they shut down the government. I’m all for it, but no way they actually do something.
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At a certain point it’s the government that’s hurting people and causing chaos.
i hope they shut down and never fucking come back
maybe they should shut down and see if we let them come back
Pretty sure DOGE obtained illegitimate access to the Treasury. So I bet they want a shutdown. They’ll just stop paying the Democrats and act like it’s business like usual. I mean, what’s stopping them?
Not good but about the only in strategy the left has right now is pissing off his base and pissing off the people that carry out his orders. Stopping paychecks is a pretty good way to do that.
if they want to mortally wound the USD and find out what happens i am all for it
Is this a regime worth having be able to function or participating in running? Walk away.
At the government, shuts down. I doubt that the Republicans will ever open it back up again. That will be the end of it.
Shutting it down will hurt red states the most.
