I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.

  • They oppose making parking expensive.

  • They oppose bus lanes

  • They oppose bike lanes.

  • They oppose trains

  • They oppose train stations.

  • They oppose congestion pricing.

They oppose any measure that might reduce car dependency.

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      According to Doug Ford, a huge ass tunnel.

      He is, without a doubt, a fucking moron.

      But somehow, Ontarians still vote for him.

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      Yeah, there’s so much unused space in this picture: houses, trees, … Those could all be roads. Really this picture just shows how the woke “not everything is a road” policy has failed regular, everyday drivers.

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        Here’s an idea: If we have people live in their cars, we can eliminate housing and parkland and successfully turn all land into highways!

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    Metro Toronto is a disappointment. It should be have been doubling its subway network every 20 years. Instead it shut down a line, added a few stations on another, and built LRT that’s slower than the bus it replaced.

    It needs express subway tracks, GO with 10 minutes headways, and transit oriented development able to house 10k people within a ten minute walk of every GO stop which means zoning for density,

    Pay for it by owning the land around stations like HK or Singapore and leasing it to developers for 40 story affordable apartments, increasing the gasoline tax, and putting tolls on the 401 and Gardiner.

    Toronto is a transportation nightmare. It’s time to adopt successful models from Asia to make transit fast, convenient, and cheap while making driving fast, convenient, and incredibly expensive. Fill in with protected bike lanes and the city will be liveable and affordable with great air quality

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      Toronto is one Ford family grift piled on top of another. All city planning is based on favours owed to their buddies or to keep their degenerate relatives afloat.

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    Yeah these stupid anti car people don’t get it. We just need an extra lane! Get rid of train tracks and bike lanes to free up more space!

    Maybe instead of cars everyone can have motorhomes. Then we won’t have houses or neighbourhoods getting in the way of us building more lanes!!

    /s just in case

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    We’ve sure let a lot get out of hand in the pursuit of the american dream here in Canada.

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    just one more lane bro. i promise bro just one more lane and it’ll fix everything bro. bro… just one more lane. please just one more. one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro. bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro. bro bro please i just need one more lane

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      It’s around 18 or 19 at its widest so it isn’t like they aren’t trying.

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        This topic just reminded me of AI. We are told we just need to build more capacity and AI will get better and more reliable. Just one more lane(data centre) and we’ll solve all the issues.

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    You can thank my fellow Ontarians for being fucking morons and electing Doug Ford who rewards his contractor buddies with expensive projects like making another layer of highway instead of improving our ailing railway infrastructure.

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      Doug Ford wants to double it by digging a tunnel underneath the 401. Not for electric trains. But more cars. Because I really want to drive in darkened smoggy tunnels.

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        I can’t wait for the entire tunnel to be closed by an accident. If you thought being stuck on the 401 was bad enough when there’s an accident, now try having absolutely nothing to look at while you do so! And if something catches fire, it’ll be far worse than above ground.

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        Tunnel ventilation is a solved problem. I’d actually prefer if all city highways were underground.

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          Ok. You got me there. In a perfect world, fast subterranean mechanized electric transport would be ideal, freeing the surface for more parks, forests and bikepaths.

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      Doesn’t make a lot of sense to have freight trains running through a city. Best to have a few freight train stations on the edge and light/medium duty trucks for last mile.

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      Doug Ford wants to build a tunnel under it to add more lanes.

      Yes, he’s as stupid as he sounds.

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        No he doesn’t he just wants a convenient way to funnel money to people paid to ‘study’ this boondoggle.

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    I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.

    No, it’s what the GTA suburban people want. I live in Ottawa but travel to Toronto quite often and the actual city doesn’t want any of that shit but our province is run by a petty mob boss

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    Worth calling out who “they” are, cause I know a LOT of people who don’t want this.

    The federal government certainly doesn’t seem like they’re doing much to reduce car dependency right now with the motion to fast track oil and gas pipelines. (Worth editing in this part for those in the UK: Yes, the current government is led by the same Carney you might know.)

    The provincial government, where this highway is situated, proposed adding a tunnel, yes you read that right, A FUCKING TUNNEL!, underneath this highway TO ALLOW MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.

    The Toronto City Council (which, to be fair, has less sway here) is filled with car-brained nutjobs from the suburbs who oppose every measure that they perceive makes it harder for them to get into the city.