• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Literally yesterday at my local diner some dipshit MAGA was complaining that Mamdani was going to give away free food. Just hated the idea of food for the poor.

    Dude doesn’t like what’s in the Bible he swears he read.

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      Matthew 25:41-46 seems explicitly targeted at modern republicans:

      ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

      For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

      I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

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    Okay, Trump suddenly acting amenable is somehow the most unsettling behavior that I can expect from him. Has a second (Third or fourth) stroke hit the white-house? Has the mounting pressure of the Epstein files finally broken him? Did three funny little ghosts visit him last night?

    Stay tuned for the next episode of: “America’s Future Hinges On The Whims of A Geriatric, Rapist Sociopath”

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      One thing you have to always remember about Donald Trump is: he’s incredibly insecure. His fragile little ego is desperate for approval. It’s why he constantly shitposts on a social media site he owns - so he can get that constant dopamine rush of upvotes and fawning comments and “megadittoes, Mr. President”. And it’s why he’s desperate for the approval of people he considers strong leaders - Putin and Xi and Milei and so on. And when somebody he respects flatters him, he becomes putty in their hands.

      Mamdani won decisively in New York. Mamdani proved himself a strong leader. And then, after taking everything Trump could throw at him and coming out on top, Mamdani went to Trump and basically said “I talk a lot of shit about you, you talk a lot of shit about me, but we both know that’s how the game is played and not to take it personally. You do good work and I respect you. We both believe New York is the greatest city in the world so let’s work together to make it great again.”

      And Mamdani certainly didn’t have to ask for a meeting with Trump. It probably hurt him with some of his base to talk to Trump at all. So you have this strong man, this leader, this winner, who decisively proved himself the leader of the Democratic Party in New York, with incredible momentum behind him - and he goes to Trump to kiss his ring and ask for his support.

      And when a strong man gives Trump the manly validation he craves, he melts like a teenage girl at a David Bowie concert.

      Because you also have to remember, Donald Trump has no actual political positions. He doesn’t care about anything except winning - and he loves winners. And whatever Mamdani is, he’s a winner.

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        Actually the best explanation of Trump being so friendly with him. When I first saw that I had alarms going off in my head, legit the first thought I had was to check if Mamdani has kids (doesn’t look like he has)

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            I mean, yeah, we could all be wrong and this could just be another politician, like all the rest. But let’s hope not.

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      It is just not amenability, he fucking showed actual mental agility and maturity when deflecting questions such as “Do you still think he is a fascist” directed at Mamdani. What the actual fuck? Is this guy a robit whose programming changes depending on the situation?

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    I was not expecting Mamdani to meet with Trump, but looking back it makes sense. Butter him up, and he’ll support anyone. If Elon Musk and JD Vance could get Trump’s support by glazing him, anyone can.

    Trump has flip-flopped on positions repeatedly. Gun control, LGBTQ+ rights. It’s all ego for him. Always has been. I guess all you need to do is sweet talk him the right way.

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    I’m very relieved that he didn’t try to detain and deport Mamdani (after publicly threatening to do so), but I’m also definitely not convinced anything be said was genuine. Especially coming on the heels of vaguely threatening to execute any Democrats who oppose him.

    Idk if it was a genuine attempt to ingratiate himself with the left before the Epstein files are released, or some other kind of misdirection. Either way, I think anyone opposed to fascism who can remember further back than a goldfish, should know not to let their guard down.

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      PROTIP: Nothing Trump says is genuine. One day he could say someone is a great person, the next day he’ll say that person is nasty or whatever, and the day after that he’ll say they’re a great person again. Everything is transactional to him and everything he says is entirely dependent on what benefits him personally in that specific moment.

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      I said that I was skeptical too and thought it might have all been a performance in order to get to some other goal, and people looked at mt like I was crazy.

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      Sheer number of times Trump has made conflicting statements about Ukrainian war tells me what he says does not really matter at all. People who know how to operate him gets their requests met.

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    This meeting most likely benefits Trump more than Mamdani. This gives Trump an opportunity to sweep the vile racism of the final weeks of the campaign under the rug, and lets him appear to be concerned about the working class and affordability.

    I’m sure Mamdani and his team understood this but are willing to butter him up so that Trump doesn’t send ICE and the national guard into NYC.

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    That was one weird hell of a meeting, that it was. I especially love how some people are like “I am not at all surprised”. Sure buddy in retrospect everything is always very clear.

    Sure it is politics but these two people were at each other’s throats for the last couple months. And Trump has insulted Sadik Khan, mayor of London, every chance he gets, for almost a decade, because Sadik Khan called him ignorant once, about ten years ago. He doesn’t even stand to gain much from this, it is just petty feud. Trump is a vindictive man child. And yet somehow he pretended like he was best friends with a guy who called him a fascist about a month ago. And the way he showed mental agility to deflect questions from reporters like “Do you still think he is a fascist” to save both Mamdani and himself from a difficult spot is so unlike Trump. I would never in a decade think he can display such mental feats and maturity. And yet here we are.

    Either Trump thinks he is losing too much support and shifting to center, or he thinks he stands to lose much more financially by losing control of NYC to an enemy rather than someone neutral(ish). It might be both, acting vindictively on NYC might be both a big support and financial loss for him. Or alternatively Trump isn’t this strategic and Mamdani just has found Trump’s levers and is manipulating him by saying the right things.

    It makes more sense from Mamdani’s point of view that this was a win. He did not get the vindictive wrath of Trump on NYC (which could have terrible effects on his mayoral term tbh), he did not have to make a statement about backing from any of his policies or ideologies he stated during his campaigning. He also did not really praise Trump (unlike Trump somewhat praising him) but just said they will work together to make NYC better. How this will play out in terms of ICE and increasing racism is to be seen. He will definitely lose some support because of this but he has four years to make up for this.

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      I think what Trump loves the most is to hold power over people. In a weird turn of events, protecting Mamdani really put his circle of sycophants in their place.

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      Someone called this the love-in that happens in an abusive marriage after the beatings. “Oh, baby, I do this because I love you so much. You and I are just meant to be together.”

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      There’s some absolute charmers on there.

      me too! i actually sold my maga hat and bought a soviet flag and gave away my belongings to a homeless man who needed it more than i do. i cant way to see all the wonderful things socialism will do for NYC!

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      One of the comments and below that, the reply:

      Don’t worry. It’s for show. Mamdani showed up and kissed the ring like a good boy. Smart move. But Trump isn’t dumb enough to trust this guy. And neither should we be.

      Yeah I got the sense that Trump was trolling him a bit.

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      Yeah, I saw that shortly after that meeting. I go over there a lot to check up on the insanity. It seems that they got their marching orders, and immediately did a 180, lol.

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        It’s very “We were always at war with eurasia” the way they just gobble up the propaganda is so orwellian.

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    We just need to explain to them that their leader recognizes a strong Man-Date when he sees it.

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      Trump sucked him off. He’s the new bubba

      Really though, I think Trump is trying to do “affordability by proxy” to bring his poll numbers back.

      Unfortunately for republicans if Trump came out as a gay jewish trans man who was setting MAGA supporters on fire they might still support him out of sheer spite to democrats because of like decades of media inertia.

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    Trump meets with Putin and is nice to him: “Trump is Putin’s bitch, look at him!”

    Mamdani meets with Trump and stands at his desk like an obedient puppy: “Wow, our hero really charmed him with his immense rizz! Trump’s a coward!”

    Politics is so braindead. 😩